Send me your resume or GitHub! Any developer worth their chops is going to slot into an agile workplace in a heartbeat. People over process, we are just looking for great devs!
Your reflection sounds like a short sighted HR level decision, unless you were going for a team lead role where you'd be expected to drive the agile processes? On Sat, 30 Jan 2016 at 2:59 PM, Brian May <br...@linuxpenguins.xyz> wrote: > Hello All, > > I recently had a job application rejected, for a Python Role, with the > following explanation: > > "Although we were impressed by your experience and passion for > technology (particularly Python/Django), we are looking for more > hands on experience working in an agile team environment. > > I suspect a lot of employer's consider Agile very important, and this > might be a reason why I haven't had a lot of success so far with my job > search. > > However, there seems to be this problem that I can't get experience > "working in an agile team" without getting one of these jobs, which I am > unlikely to get because (in the view of the person making the decision) > I haven't had the "hands on experience". > > i.e. in Python that would be: > > class Experience(object): > ... > > def get_job(experience): > required_experience = ???? > experience = get_additional_experience_required(experience, > required_experience) > while True: > try: > job = apply_for_job(experience) > ... > attend_interview(job, experience) > ... > return job > except ApplicationRejected: > pass > > > def get_additional_experience_required(experience, required_experience): > while experience < required_experience: > job = get_job(experience) > goto_work(job) > experience = experience + perform_job(job) > return experience > > > if __name__ == "__main__": > experience = Experience() > while True: > job = get_job(experience) > try: > while True: > goto_work(job) > experience = experience + perform_job(job) > goto_home() > goto_bed() > except LostJob: > pass > > > Which is likely to produce a stack overflow error. However I don't think > stackoverflow.com is going to help me here. How do I fix the above code? > > (1st draft only: applying for a job should be multi-threaded, so I can > have a number of open applications at any one time; there is also > several problems with my get_experience_required function if get_job > actually returned a result: e.g. no sleep and no catching the LostJob > exception) > > Apparently just having experience in using the developmental tools, such > as git, Jenkins, Gerrit, Tox, github, Travis, etc is not sufficient. Nor > is my experience in a being a sole developer of a large and complicated > open source Django based application. I suspect I have used principles > of Agile development already, however not as part of a formal > development team. > > I just wondered if anybody here had any tips for how I might go about > convincing potential employers that I can participate in an formal "Agile > team environment"? > > Yes, I could read up more about the theory of Agile programming, however > I think they want practical experience, not theoretical knowledge. > > Thanks. > -- > Brian May <br...@linuxpenguins.xyz> > https://linuxpenguins.xyz/brian/ > _______________________________________________ > melbourne-pug mailing list > melbourne-pug@python.org > https://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/melbourne-pug >
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