Hi Kai, thanks for a thorough reply. Inline...

On Fri, Dec 27, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Kai Willadsen <[email protected]>wrote:

> On 25 December 2013 22:02, Yuri Astrakhan <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > * Ctrl+Escape for cycle through documents is a reserved shortcut in
> windows
> > (start menu), so it doesn't work.
> >
> > * There is no shortcut for switching cursor between panes (or at least
> its
> > not documented/not in the menu) - F6 in Winmerge.
>
> Unless you mean something different, these are the same problem. I had
> no idea that Windows reserved Ctrl+Escape, so I think we should just
> fix this by changing the shortcut. A simple alternative would be Ctrl
> + `, or more interestingly the GNOME-ish Ctrl + <whatever is above Tab
> on your keyboard>.
>
> Another option would be to come up with something totally different to
> do pane cycling. It's hard to come up with easy keyboard shortcuts
> that don't conflict with anything predefined...
>
> Either way, could I ask you file a bug for this?
>

Sure. I think Ctrl+` is ok. F6 is a single key, but finding it blind is not
as easy.

>
> > * The behavior of alt+left/right, alt+shift+left/right, and alt+delete
> IMHO
> > seems a bit over-complicated -- when comparing two files, i think
> WinMerge
> > model is much simpler - alt+up/down selects the change (same in Meld),
> > alt+left/right copies the change from left to right (alt+right), or
> > right->left (alt+left). The "change" in this case could be both copying
> if
> > text is different, or deleting/inserting  - if there are lines only on
> one
> > of the sides. This operation is consistent regardless of which side has
> the
> > cursor, thus greatly simplifying the thought process.
> >
> > For example, having these shortcuts would allow someone to quickly copy
> > changes from left to right by simply holding down alt  and hitting down,
> > right, down, right, down down down right (copied 1st, 2nd, and 5th
> change).
> >
> > With the current shortcut model, this is severely limited -- I can only
> do
> > it if the cursor is in the left pane (being in the right pane confusingly
> > changes the shortcuts to alt+shift+right), and it will not work at all if
> > the right pane has extra text that wasn't in the left - i must be ONLY in
> > the right pane and use a different shortcut alt+delete. Hence, lots of
> extra
> > thoughts that get in the way of quickly merging a file.
>
> So I agree with you on some of this, but other bits I don't think are
> workable. One of the biggest considerations here is that any shortcut
> scheme must work for *both* two and three-way comparison. I think this
> pretty much eliminates your idea of allowing Alt+Left/Right actually
> pulling changes like Alt+Shift+Left/Right currently do. I can't think
> of a way to make that work consistently across different comparions
> types.
>
> On the other hand, I agree that having to switch panes in order to
> push a delete is a pain... for two-pane comparisons it would be nice
> if you almost never had to switch panes, and we break that.
>
> I haven't tried it, but my suggestion based on your idea is that we
> could just change the behaviour of Alt+L/R and Alt+Shift+L/R to also
> push/pull chunk deletions. In this case you still need to know what
> pane you're in, but you should rarely need to change panes (unless
> you're copying or changing chunks rather than just push/pull/delete).
>
> well, I guess alt+[shift]+L/R could also pull/push deletions, which would
solve the biggest grievance. On the other hand, you could make it behave
differently depending on 2way and 3 way merge - after all, 3 way merge is
much less common as well as fairly different workflow, hence it may use a
slightly different shortcut approach. For example, in a 2way, it could work
like I proposed - alt+L/R could function identical to alt+shift+R/L (mirror
reversal), whereas in a 3way the shortcut meaning would change slightly to
only allow one way movement of the changes.

I tried to use 3way merge by configuring TortoiseGit conflict resolution to
meld, but it wouldn't even start - silent failure. There were 4 params
passed:
C:\<dir>\file.php.BASE.php C:\<dir>\file.php.REMOTE.php
C:\<dir>\file.php.LOCAL.php C:\<dir>
Where the 4th param is the output directory where the resulting file would
be placed (not the output file like i expected, but it could be the
convention of 3 way merge). Note that all 4 files existed in that dir.

Thank you!
-Yuri
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