Scott,,
The Outlaw calipers are good devices. The only hassle I have heard about is
cylinder wear in the billet alloy housings from extreme pressure use
(continued hard race braking). I think they are good but expensive????
Cheers
Feral Errol
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-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Davidson
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2001 5:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Brakes...Errol
Hey Errol. I was underneth a BMW yesterday and this guy takes his BMW out
on the track every now and then. I was checking out the front 4 spots and
which looked pretty nice and then measured the bolt spacing. Sure enough it
was 90mm. They had printed on them "Outlaw". Do u know of these calipers?
Are they worth looking into for anyone thats interested?? Or are they not
suitible for a 200b/stanza/skyline strut? Just wondering as they could be
another good option.
Scott
Davo
-----Original Message-----
From: Richard Clough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Thursday, 11 January, 2001 22:51
Subject: Re: Brakes - Long
>You've hit the nail on the head Ken. The magic of a Datsun 1600 is equal
>"go" for far less "dough."
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Ken Abraham" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Monday, 8 January 2001 21:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Brakes - Long
>
>
>> Listers,
>> Remember that 4 and more piston calipers are alloy and very light and so
>> contribute less to the unsprung weight.
>> Sliding calipers are basically boat anchors (too heavy) as far as proper
>> full-house, no expense spared racing and rallying.
>> But we are lowly privateers and road car drivers and don't need the extra
>> 3/10ths of bugger-all per kilometre speed difference.
>>
>> Personally, I really enjoy out driving expensive cars and hella-modified
>> cars in my cheap but big-hearted rides.
>> We probably spend less on the whole car than they spend on wheels and
>> tyres!!!
>> Regards,
>> Nick
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Brad HALLETT <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Monday, 8 January 2001 9:39 PM
>> Subject: RE: Brakes - Long
>>
>>
>> > Excellent point Luke
>> >
>> >
>> > Regards
>> > Brad HALLETT
>> > http://www.powerup.com.au/~bhallett
>> >
>> > http://www.datrats.com.au for all Datsun performance equipment!
>> >
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Luke Clough
>> > Sent: Tuesday, 9 January 2001 10:22
>> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> > Subject: Re: Brakes - Long
>> >
>> >
>> > I think the problem with slide arm setup is the flex that you get. This
>> > leads to
>> > more pressure exerted at the outer edge of the rim than the inner
(maybe
>> > better
>> > for cooling!), with opposing pistons the caliper body would be a lot
>> stiffer
>> > than the effective body of the sliding arm type. The step from 2 to 4
>> piston
>> > calipers (and 6 piston) allows the pressure to be distributed more
>evenly
>> > across
>> > the area of the pad. Resistance is not exactly equal to the normal
force
>> > multiplied by the coefficient of friction. High pressure spots would
>lead
>> to
>> > localised regions of overheating on the pads, which could reduce the
>> > effectiveness of the part of the pad that is doing the most work. Just
>my
>> > thoughts on the debate. Remember most race cars use 4 and 6 pot
calipers
>> for
>> > a
>> > good reason. The amount of force developed is still down to your leg
>(plus
>> > booster) pushing the fluid hard enough to create the desire pressure,
>the
>> > rest
>> > is just ratios of cylinder areas and a trade off between peddle drop
>> > (smaller
>> > m/c = larger pressure for the same leg generated force) and the feeling
>of
>> a
>> > hard brake peddle.
>> >
>> > Luke Clough
>> >
>> > Brad HALLETT wrote:
>> >
>> > > Thrill seekers
>> > > I too agree that the force exerted on each side would be close to
>equal,
>> > as
>> > > there is no real mechanical advantage or disadvantage afforded by the
>> > > slide-arm setup (want of better wording). Some force would have to
be
>> > lost
>> > > in the transfer though, due to heat, binding of components etc, and a
>> lag
>> > in
>> > > activation would occur as the system relies on the cylinder side to
>> apply
>> > > pressure before activating the non culinder side. I still think two
>or
>> > four
>> > > pots are the way to go simply due to the even and immediate
>distribution
>> > > applied to the rotors. Doesn't make a hell of a difference to
>braking,
>> > but
>> > > component wear and reliability would have to be enhanced.
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > > Brad HALLETT
>> > > http://www.powerup.com.au/~bhallett
>> > >
>> > > http://www.datrats.com.au for all Datsun performance equipment!
>> >
>> >
>>
>
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