Speaking of Porches. I saw a Back RS Turbo last week, rego plate FATRS. It
has a very fat arse! I'm not sure if that's the connection intended, but it
suits.
----- Original Message -----
From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, 11 May 2001 0:41 AM
Subject: Re: Stock 1600 in battle (David v. Goliaths) (long)
> Robert,
> Good to here of a 1600 competing in the challenge as there hasn't been any
for a
> few years.Plenty of quick cars there and good drivers.I see they gave AJ's
> silvia a 1.0 handicap.They dont like Nissans/Datsuns that why the porsches
wear
> those datsun buster stickers.One day I'll get one of my datto's out there.
> Andrew Smith
>
> Robert Palmonari wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> > Justin -I must agree with Zac on the 1600 rear suspension design.
> > Pininfarina only style bodies
> > as far as I am aware, mostly for Ferrari. Also they are an independent
> > styling house and are not
> > part of the Ferrari (FIAT) company. As for the body stylist of the
1600? - I
> > hav'nt a clue, but
> > whoever it was is a genius! OK I am biased, but the 1600 is beautifully
> > proportioned and does bear
> > a slight similarity to the old Fiat 128, but much nicer. Around the time
of
> > the birth of the 1600 the
> > Japanese were still copying a lot of other western companies ideas,
although
> > the styling of bodies
> > was outsourced alot and some designers from Europe were used. For
example,
> > Mazda's first in-house
> > styling job was the original RX7, before that they must have outsourced
> > their design work.
> > As most of you will know, when the 1600 was released, it was ahead of
its
> > time. The only other similar
> > sized vehicle to offer front discs and independent rear suspension (IRS)
was
> > the BMW 2000 (or 2002?).
> > It would not surprise me if Datsun had pinched a few ideas from BMW.
> >
> > BTW I have 3 1600s, all from 1972. One I bought recently reeeeaaallll
> > cheap, minimal rust, original paint
> > and license plates, and is totally stock. For a laugh I bolted on an
> > electronic dizzy, twin SUs (no head mods),
> > new seatbelts, bucket seats and fire extinguishers and entered into my
first
> > rally, the Classic Challenge 2001
> > here in Perth. My 1600 was easily the LEAST race-prepared car there,
> > especially considering I still had the original
> > steel rims (with stock hubcaps) and skinny tyres and the old un-modified
> > suspension (great over speed humps
> > and nothing else). Onlookers reported a hysterical amount of body roll
> > during the Autokhanas but we were
> > one of the few cars to always receive applause during the spectator
events,
> > probably because they could see
> > I was pushing the car to its absolute limits and beyond. I was happy
with
> > our results (see below) and had
> > a complete blast, even with only 68 horsepower at the rear wheel!! I'm
> > hooked! I recently purchased a
> > L20B race motor in Melbourne (from the Ozdat classifieds) which should
pump
> > out nearly 200 horses at the
> > aluminium flywheel, with a ceramic plate, brass button clutch,
extractors,
> > twin 45 Webers, 240K 5-speed etc.
> > This will NOT be going in the stock Datsun, (it's too nice in its
original
> > condition) but in another body which I
> > will be seam welding and adding 280ZX front struts and all-round discs
to.
> > This should improve our placings
> > in the next rally somewhat ;)
> > Considering we were up against much more expensive and powerful cars,
> > including a Lamborghini Diablo VT,
> > Ferrari 360, a posse of Porsches, Falcon GTHO, Mini Cooper S, Honda
S2000,
> > Subaru Liberty Turbos, WRXs,
> > and various rotary powered Mazdas, we more than held our own, finished
the
> > whole rally (3 cars withdrew) and
> > most importantly had heaps of fun.
> >
> > For the Classic Challeng Rally, Perth WA I have listed our results below
in
> > the format: placing / total cars in category.
> > Full results if you're interested available at the AEM website:
> > http://www.classicrally.com.au
> >
> > Navigation (Touring Class)
> > Navigation 1 (day one, when we totally stuffed it) 25th /29
> > Navigation 3 16th
/29
> > Navigation 4 (day 2 when we kicked ass) 5th /29
> > Navigation/performance combined 17th /29
> > Navigation overall 19th
/29
> >
> > Overall combined Touring/Navigation 84th /86
> >
> > Autokhanas and sprints (Handicapped)
> > Kwinana Autokhana (We went the wrong way-DNF) 85th /85
> > Bunnings Sprint 57th
/86
> > Smeaton Sprint 1 (one lap in the morning) 73rd /85
> > Rockingham Autokhana (carpark event with crowd) 68th /85
> > Smeaton Sprint 1 (two laps in the afternoon) 64th /85
> >
> > Autokhanas and sprints (no handicapping)
> > Kwinana Autokhana (We went the wrong way) 85th /85
> > Bunnings Sprint 65th
/86
> > Smeaton Sprint 1 (one lap in the morning) 80th /85
> > Rockingham Autokhana (carpark event with crowd) 68th /85
> > Smeaton Sprint 1 (two laps in the afternoon) 75th /85
> >
> > With better preparation and hindsight we should get
> > some major improvements next time.
> >
> > Cheers all,
> > Rob
> >
> > >From: Justin Friedrichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Subject: RE: Zed History - Styling
> > >Date: Tue, 8 May 2001 2:03 PM
> > >
> >
> > >
> > > ROB,
> > >
> > > I've also picked up along the way that the 1600, being a revolutionary
car
> > > and all for datsun, they had a bit of help too.
> > >
> > > Body:- Designed in germany by BMW , that easy to tell.
> > > Suspension:- Pinifarinni from ferrari worked on the rear suspension
> > > Engine:- Based on a tough mercedes engine.
> > >
> > > anyone know of any others?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Justin
> > >
> > > BTW :- I think the 260Z was the most popular sports car of all time.
> >
>
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