List,
I contacted Vicroads and they advised me that as long as the vehicle came
from the factory with the motor that is in it then it is ok, so I assume
that 1600 came out with L18 and L16 motors, or was it only the SSS that had
L18 motors.
Thanks to everyone for their input to date.
>From: "Zac Campbell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
>Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2001 19:32:10 +0930
>
>Yep when I put my L20b in I waltzed down to rta and said my new engine
>number is L20b xxx xxx and they said 'thankyou, goodbye!'
>
>zac
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Tom Richardson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, June 19, 2001 7:08 PM
>Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
>
>
> > I checked today with TransportSA for eligibility of my Z20E for rego,
>and
> > was told over the phone that with "no doubt whatsoever" a (stock) L20b
>would
> > be legal to fit to an otherwise standard 1600
> >
> > For the Z20E I had to fill out an application for vehicle modification,
> > which details suspension, brake, motor, wheel, tyre, track, steering and
> > chassis changes which they then use to figure out if the mods are legal.
> > It's a bit silly of course because if I presented the car as is but with
>an
> > L20b engine number it would pass with no problems! Anybody got a die
> > grinder handy!? Oops I think that's illegal huh :)
> >
> > Thought it might be of interest to the SA listers
> >
> > - Tom
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "andrew smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:13 PM
> > Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> >
> >
> > > There are so many inconsistencies especially here in perth even more
>so
> > since
> > > thepits are now run by privately owned businesses.I know one guy who
> > turned up
> > > with willwood 4 spots on the front with 300mm vented rotos and they
> > knocked it
> > > back but passed it the next day with 240k brakes.the inspectors
>reasoning
> > was
> > > that the 4 spots are race brakes but for $500 he would arrange a
>ticket
> > for
> > > them.According to the legislation even 240k or 200b brakes are illegal
> > without a
> > > ticket.This inspector is now under investigation as they should only
> > supply
> > > details of registed engineers .
> > > Andrew Smith
> > >
> > > Terry Rudd wrote:
> > >
> > > > You can see why the RTA is trying to standardise safety
>specification
> > for
> > > > modified vehicles. I'm not saying that your car is a death trap, but
> > > > experiences like this just send shivers down my spine. To many of my
> > friend
> > > > were badly injured and a couple were even killed driving unsafe
>hotted
> > up
> > > > cars in the 70's and I would have thought by now it would have been
>a
> > bit
> > > > better than back then.
> > > >
> > > > terry (soap box just got squashed)
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of ryanmel
> > > > Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 19:47
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> > > >
> > > > here in perth they allow a 25% or 30% increase in capacity i think.
> > > > i had some serious problems getting my Z18ET 1600 over the pits in
>perth
> > > > because i had put R31 rear discs on and the fronts were 200B Girlock
> > with a
> > > > 180B Dual reservoir m/cyl. The engine was passed with a phone
>call...
> > they
> > > > rang
> > > > a guy they use for getting ideas on how much hp import motors have
>as
> > > > they had some limit on that too (i think 20%)... they happened to
>ring
>a
> > guy
> > > > i used
> > > > regularly and he just said, "yeah, thats within the limits" and that
>was
> > > > that.
> > > > from a stock L16 to a Z18ET was less than 20%?? but come to the
>brakes
> > and
> > > > 3 of the pits
> > > > i went to said "we need someone to sign off on the brakes, we wont
>take
> > > > liablility for them"
> > > > there was only one guy in perth who had the little program and the
> > G-tech to
> > > > measure
> > > > stopping distance relative to pedal pressure and ra ra ra ra. he
>wanted
> > > > $400 a pop and said
> > > > it will need 2 trials. so $800... anyways, the fourth pits i took
>it
> > to,
> > > > didn't even check them..
> > > > got away scott free. they signed off on the brakes thinking they
>had
> > been
> > > > checked.. all systems nelly
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Monday, June 18, 2001 11:32 AM
> > > > Subject: RE: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> > > >
> > > > > That is just sillyness!!
> > > > > It is my opinion that a compuslory engineers certificate is
>probably
> > the
> > > > > easiest way to allow engine conversions, but then the engineers
>need
> > to be
> > > > > regulated themselves. ie by that I mean engineering a stock L20b
>into
> > a
> > > > 1600
> > > > > shouldn't cost any more than $100 provided it is safe and has [for
> > > > example]
> > > > > 200b brakes minimum. But I realise then the laws will have to be
> > changed
> > > > to let
> > > > > engineers do it that cheaply.
> > > > >
> > > > > zac
> > > > >
> > > > > > Listers,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ha, I like it, just go to another rego office who haven't read
>the
> > head
> > > > > > office memos for a month.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The reduction in oversize transplants crap has started to happen
>in
> > the
> > > > ACT
> > > > > > too, I was talking to them recently and they told me that an
>1800cc
> > > > inline 4
> > > > > > cyl is the max "over the pits" upgrade for a 1600 as under the
> > National
> > > > > > Roads Guidelines some idiot has deemed that the engineering
>level
>of
> > a
> > > > road
> > > > > > registered car (you'd immediately think they were talking about
>a
> > > > Hyundai
> > > > > > but it seems not) can only safely handle a 12.5% increase in
>cubic
> > > > capacity
> > > > > > and it would seem that you can't change the engine block
> > configuration
> > > > > > either ( i.e. no 1.5 litre v8's). He went on to inform me that
>"This
> > > > change
> > > > > > in legislation is designed to stop young revheads dropping V8's
>into
> > > > their
> > > > > > Datsun 1600's!" - yeah right, how many V8 1600 are registered in
>the
> > > > ACT -
> > > > > > Answer 1.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So I asked him about replacing a L16 Datto with a Toyota 4A-GE
>(NA
> > > > 1600cc 4
> > > > > > cyl inline 20 valve and incidentally puts out more KWs than a
>L20B
> > puts
> > > > out
> > > > > > in HP)? Answer - "unless the conversion requires structural
>changes
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > chassis then you would just present to the pits for a ruling and
>if
> > it
> > > > was
> > > > > > done properly I couldn't see how you will have a problem under
>this
> > > > ruling."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is a joke, these clowns have nfi what they are doing but
>they
> > make
> > > > or
> > > > > > at least interpret the law of the land. I read recently that
>there
> > is a
> > > > big
> > > > > > push going on again in the US (California at this stage) again
>for
> > the
> > > > > > government to "buy back" all road registered vehicle pre 1970 -
>the
> > > > > > suggested amount is $US2500. This is of concern to us over here
>as
> > well
> > > > as
> > > > > > if this gets off the ground then it will be very quickly grabbed
>by
> > the
> > > > > > average greenie for sure.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regards
> > > > > > Terry (stepping down of soapbox)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of
>Richard
> > Webb
> > > > > > Sent: Monday, 18 June 2001 10:55
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Registering 1600 with L20 in Melb (Cam)
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > My mate had some problems getting his L20 regestered in melb
>without
> > an
> > > > > > engineers, he thaught he had no hope... one of his mates told
>him
>to
> > try
> > > > all
> > > > > > the vic roads, he got it through eventually (Greensbough Vic
>Roads)
> > but
> > > > he
> > > > > > did have to try about 4 of them. Its worth a try before you get
>an
> > > > engineers
> > > > > > anyway!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Whats the go if you let your regestation lapse is it like a
> > roadworthy
> > > > or do
> > > > > > you have to get a new engineers?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > thanx rich
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> >
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