Haa Haaa Eddie is back in town.
Good list Eddie I wish we in Australia got more fuel injected L series datsuns as they 
are really hard too find.
I would love to fuel inject my 510 wagon bbut since they are soo hard to find I havn't.
Ohh well I will keep on dreaming for now.
Later hea.
Rick White.

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><DIV><FONT size=2>Thought I'd try to shed some light on these three models as 
>there seems to be some confusion over which is which.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Despite the model code "710", it didn't come after the 610 in 
>model series only number. The 610 was launched in 1970 a little bit before the 
>710, ultimately as a replacement for the 510, although the 510 lived on until 
>1974. The sucessor to the 610 was the 810 (200B there). The 510, 610 and 810 
>formed the Bluebird series. The 610 was known as either 160B or 180B in Europe 
>and just 180B in Australia as you guys were lucky enough not to get the L16 in 
>it :-) In the US it's just called "610" and of course Bluebird in Japan. Japan 
>also got the 610 with a six cylinder L20A engine in the Bluebird-U. The 610 
>comes as four door sedan, two door hardtop or wagon. Both sedans and coupes get 
>IRS&nbsp;and SSS badges on some models in Japan.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The 710&nbsp;on the other hand was an intermediate model 
>between the Bluebird (610) and smaller Sunny range (120Y) hence the smaller 
>engines and was the first model in the short lived Violet series. The 710 is 
>also a physically smaller car than a 610 in spite of the fact it shares much of 
>the 610's floorpan and chassis. The 710 was sold as a Violet in Japan but not as 
>an Auster or Stanza ...the succeeding model, the A10 was the first to carry 
>those names (see below). The 710 came as a 140J or 160J elsewhere and just plain 
>old "710" in America (although the US model is significantly different to all 
>others and has an L20B). Outside of the US, the 710 series came with either L14 
>or L16 engines in both coupe and sedan forms. A wagon was available too. The SSS 
>came in both sedan and coupe, both of which had IRS unlike the non-SSS coupes, 
>sedans and the wagon which always had a live axle.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The&nbsp;Stanza sold in Australia is an A10 and 
>was&nbsp;actually a Violet&nbsp;in Japan.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The A10 came in three forms in Japan....Stanza, Auster and 
>Violet and formed a rather confusing range. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The Stanza has very large single rectangular headlights 
>throughout it's production. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The dual small rectangular headlights were fitted to 
>facelifted Violets from June 1979. Prior to that they carried dual round 
>headlights. </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>The Japanese Auster had dual round headlights initially but 
>with a different grille to the violet and later, medium 
>sized&nbsp;single&nbsp;rectangular headlights with smaller rectangular lights 
>mounted in the grille.&nbsp;The&nbsp;A10's came as a four door sedan, five door 
>hatchback or coupe. There was also a wagon available.&nbsp;</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Europe got the A10 model badged as a 140J (powered by an A14!) 
>or 160J (L16) and later just as a Violet. Early cars had the Japanese Violet 
>front end and later cars had the later Auster front ends (but were called 
>Violets ...confusing or what!) Europe only got the four door sedan and the SSS 
>coupe.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Nissan USA called it a 510 in an effort to sell it as a 
>replacement for the original, real&nbsp;510. Their cars came in the same styles 
>as Japanese Violets but had initially an L20B and later Z20 (or Z22?) engines. 
>They also recieved the wagon, a five door hatchback and a two door sedan 
>alongside the coupe and four door sedan.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>All A10's have solid rears, even the SSS, SGX-E and 
>GT-E.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>All&nbsp;of these Datsun models came with EFI at some time on 
>various specifications. There were no Turbo A10's although apparently Nissan did 
>some testing of Turbo 710's in Japan for motorsport use in the mid 70's 
>according to the motoring press back then.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>So..in summary the models go like this...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Bluebirds...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>310</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>312</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>410</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>411</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>510</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>610 </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>810</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>910</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>U11</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>U12</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Violet/Stanza/Auster...</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>710 </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>A10 </FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>T11</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>T12 (T72)</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>I'll get my model history done on my website soon which will 
>list every single Datsun model since 1911 including trucks and buses with a 
>picture of each one. It's about 2/3 done at the moment but I just haven't had 
>time to finish it.</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>If anyone want pictures of the various models I can scan some 
>and send them. Apart from the turbo 710, which if anybody has pictures of I'd 
>like to see them!</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2>Cheers,</FONT></DIV>
><DIV><FONT size=2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
><DIV>Eddie <BR>England<BR><A 
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>href="http://www.ratdat.com";>www.ratdat.com</A></DIV>
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>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
>  <DIV 
>  style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black"><B>From:</B> 
>  <A [EMAIL PROTECTED] href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>Rowe, 
>  Adam</A> </DIV>
>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A 
>  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>  href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A> 
>  </DIV>
>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Monday, November 19, 2001 10:40 
>  PM</DIV>
>  <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: Help needed with spring 
>  selection and 240k strut question</DIV>
>  <DIV><BR></DIV>
>  <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I was only going off web pages I have 
>  seen.&nbsp; I have not seen one in person.&nbsp; So I am probably wrong.&nbsp; 
>  Why would nissan bring out a car after the 180B (610) and fit a smaller motor 
>  to it?</FONT></P>
>  <UL>
>    <P><FONT face=Arial size=1>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><B><FONT 
>    face=Arial size=1>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial 
>    size=1>maldat [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial 
>    size=1>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=1>19/11/2001 
>    17:45</FONT> <BR><B><FONT face=Arial 
>    size=1>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT face=Arial size=1><A 
>    
>href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</A></FONT>
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>    <BR><B><FONT face=Arial 
>    size=1>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B> <FONT 
>    face=Arial size=1>Re: Help needed with spring selection and 240k strut 
>    question</FONT> </P>
>    <P><FONT face=Arial>What year would that be?<BR>All 710 violets had 
>    L16<BR>Now I think i have seen a violet that also had a stanza badge on the 
>    boot and it was a 80's model "A10" in the usa they called them 510's.they 
>    had L18,L20's etc.I think this was turbo as well?. </FONT></P>
>    <P><FONT face=Arial>Malcolm </FONT></P>
>    <P><FONT face=Arial>"Rowe, Adam" wrote: </FONT></P>
>    <UL>
>      <P><FONT face=Arial>&nbsp; </FONT></P>
>      <P><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>The Violet had the L18 or 
>      L20B.&nbsp; And they were a little ugly.</FONT><FONT face=Arial> 
>      </FONT></P>
>      <P><FONT face=Arial size=1>-----Original Message-----</FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
>      size=1>From:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial size=1>Cleary Signs 
>      [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]</FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
>      size=1>Sent:&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> </FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial size=1>19/11/2001 15:28</FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
>      size=1>To:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B><FONT face=Arial> 
>      </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=1>[EMAIL PROTECTED]</FONT><FONT 
>      face=Arial><BR></FONT><B><FONT face=Arial 
>      size=1>Subject:&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></B><FONT 
>      face=Arial> </FONT><FONT face=Arial size=1>Re: Help needed with spring 
>      selection and 240k strut question</FONT><FONT face=Arial> </FONT></P>
>      <P><FONT face=Arial size=2>isn't a violet the same as a stanza? but 2.2L 
>      or 2.0L?</FONT><FONT face=Arial> 
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