Terry,

Good news- I went to ACT brakes today and compared 200B and Commodore pads. They are nearly the same. to get them to fit you may have to grind a piece out of the bottom. They are also 1.5mm thicker. The EBC greens are $164 and Ultimates are $150. The EBC are supposed to better. R31(commodore) rear pads are EBC-$140 and Ultimates-$115.

All prices are before trade or club discount.

Bad news- QFM would have to make up the pads and this could take up to 8 weeks as they are quite busy at the moment. 200B front pads are about $115.

Damien.

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<html><div style='background-color:'><P>Terry,</P>
<P>Tonight I placed K-brakes on to my 1600. It reminded me of how much I detest them. 
The pedal feels like shit compared to B-brakes, and the extra weight is noticeable 
(but not excessively). The K-brakes had Ultimates and still did not feel better than 
the B-brakes.</P>
<P>How much extra do the Cruiser/Hilux weigh over B-brakes? Do you think that is worth 
the extra weight?</P>
<P>Have you ever heard of a QLD company called QFM (Queensland Friction Material)? 
Apparently they make a good semi-metallic pad and are priced well.</P>
<P>Anyway,&nbsp;hopefully It will work out a good combo</P>
<P>Damien.<BR><BR></P>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;From: "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt;To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Subject: RE: "great brakes are no accident"
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2002 04:49:00 +1100
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Damien,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Pagid blues where ~$250 last time in '97 or so and I got two sets as I 
was
<DIV></DIV>&gt;running around Wakefield Park back then. Endless were more exy but brake
<DIV></DIV>&gt;places here couldn't find a set in Aus. R31 rears are available in 
Ultimates
<DIV></DIV>&gt;but with a twist - you use VB-VL rear Dunnydore pads (DB number just 
escapes
<DIV></DIV>&gt;me) and weld little lugs on the inners like the R31. Yep, some Sumis 
feel
<DIV></DIV>&gt;good and some feel like you're pushing into a bucket of quick sand and 
I've
<DIV></DIV>&gt;never liked them all that much. We could always go Cruiser 4 spots, 
still
<DIV></DIV>&gt;Sumis but always feel nice.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;TR
<DIV></DIV>&gt; -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>&gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt;[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of damien cm
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Sent: Friday, 22 March 2002 11:45 PM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Subject: RE: "great brakes are no accident"
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; I think that your right. I have always rated B-brakes over K-brakes, 
but
<DIV></DIV>&gt;now my choice is very limited with pads, so I may have to go the 
K-brakes.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Roughly, how much are Pagids worth anyway?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Is it just me,or do K-brakes make your pedal feel like shit?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Can you get Ultimates for R31 rear calipers?
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; Damien.
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;From: "Terry Rudd"
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;To:
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Subject: RE: "great brakes are no accident"
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2002 21:46:22 +1100
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Damien,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Unfortunately "good" pads are hard to come by for 200B Girlocks, 
and that
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;early or late model. I have the same dilemma as you at the moment, 
i.e. a
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;fairly worn set Pagid blues in and with GST I hate to think what 
they're
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;worth now and I don't know if I can even get them still. I think 
each of
<DIV></DIV>&gt;us
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;are after a set of twin sumis so we can use Ultimates.
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;regards
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;Terry
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; -----Original Message-----
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of damien cm
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Sent: Thursday, 21 March 2002 11:21 AM
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Subject: "great brakes are no accident"
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Good Morning Listers,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; I am up for some new brake pads in the front and rear of my 1600. 
It has
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;200B girlock front discs and calipers, and R31 Skyline rear discs 
and
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;calipers. I am hard on the brakes, so I need something that is a 
bit
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;performance orientated, but not to extreme. I am after something 
that
<DIV></DIV>&gt;works
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;well from cold(sub-zero) to hot tempratures (unlike 
metal-kings!!!).
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Any suggestions?
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Thanks,
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt; Damien
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
<DIV></DIV>&gt; &gt;
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