The 1600 that i have actually has lowered king spring in the front out of a
KH-KF laser.  The mob that did the job said (to the previous owner) that
the only way to get it as low as he wanted and for them to remain captive
was to use some thing apart from 1600 springs.  So what happens is that the
progressive part of the spring that should make for a nice ride in a modern
small hatch back is pushed flat, ie the rings of the spring are on top of
each other, ie coil bind in the progressive section, Then all thats left is
the contant rate part, which is much much harder.  I think the springs are
the ones that are ment to be in the rear of the laser.  So effectively i
have constant rate spring, and let me tell you that it's harder than hard! 
If some on recommend this i would be very cautious.  It can work, but the
springs would have to be from a heavier car so that the progressive part
doesnt become coil bound.

Just another insite, sorry for the long post


Chris S

Ben writes:

> i have progressive king sprigns all round in my car, and i had to cut the
> bump stops because it was sitting on them and was so hard the front end kept
> getting airbourne
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2002 12:21 AM
> Subject: Re: front suspension
> 
> 
> > yeah i could do that, but the front suspension is so bloody hard that i
> want to do something that will give me a less rough ride, but hopefully
> better street handling. I would have thought that a front end that is really
> stiff and without any travel would have handled well, but in fact for a road
> car it is bloody annoying! I want the front end to be stiff, but not so much
> that there is no travel because it is hell on the street!
> > So, i want to know - if i put some full progressive king springs in, will
> i achieve this? Or should i put some gas shocks in instead/first?
> > any ideas or reccomendations would be good.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mark.
> >
> > --- "Ben" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >cut the bump stops in half...this gave me an extra inch of travel
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mark Firman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >Sent: Monday, May 06, 2002 6:41 PM
> > >Subject: front suspension
> > >
> > >
> > >> Hi listers,
> > >>
> > >> My front suspension has virtually no travel at all and it is really
> > >starting to shit me. It is lowered so my guess is the springs have been
> cut
> > >at some stage :( . My question is would replacing just the springs
> improve
> > >the travel and make my car handle better? or is it a combination of
> springs
> > >and shocks i need to improve it? i know the best option is getting both
> > >springs and some gas shocks, but i can't afford both right now. by the
> way
> > >the car is a 1600 and i have 240K struts in it.
> > >>
> > >> Any help would be greatly appreciated!
> > >> Thanks heaps,
> > >>
> > >> Mark.
> > >>
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