I use Vortex Premium from Caltex which is about 1 to 2 cents dearer and have
no problems. I have heard nasty things about LRP.

Kris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "james wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, July 12, 2002 9:42 AM
Subject: RE: water probs


> I have a 32/36 downdraught webber. Yes, i'm using LRP - should i use
> regular unleaded or premium? Wont that muddle up the engine?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Rudd
> Sent: Friday, 12 July 2002 11:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: water probs
>
>
> James,
>
> What sort of carbie have you got - it sounds to me like it's got a flat
> spot or maybe blocked air bleeds. Another thing that Hitachi downdrafts
> don't like is the manifold bypass hoses blocked off. The warmth in the
> manifold from the water circulating in winter stops the fuel/air mixture
> from separating back to liquid droplets (there's a name for this that
> I've
> forgotten) but basically when the mixture turns the corner is swirls if
> the air temp is very cold. You may have seen hot air intakes on the
> likes of Stanza and 200B/Bluebird that suck warm air from the exhaust
> manifold. Some L engines were very prone to this condition when driven
> in very cold climates, these warm air intake systems are a nuisance in
> summer though.
>
> Another thought, what fuel are you using? as LRP winter formula is total
> crap and I wouldn't put it in a lawn mower unless I was desperate.
>
> regards
> terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of james wade
> Sent: Thursday, 11 July 2002 11:43 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: water probs
>
>
> Just with L series engines.
>
> My engine tends to be stupid when cold... im guessing this is common. I
> try to warm it up whenever possible for 5 mins or so but lately i havent
> been driving much and havent been ablet to compare it to when driving
> when warm, but when i push on the gas after stopping it doesnt
> accellerate for the first little bit (it sorta revs (tiny revs im
> guessing maybe 500RPM - not maxing out) and moves a little but no
> relative power) then kicks in to normal revs. Im guessing this is due to
> the cold as it has never done this that i can remember when warm. I'll
> take her for a drive early next week, but could this be a problem? I
> dont know how it could have developed - im not harsh on the transmission
> (im a very sensi driver as at the moment there are a few things which
> could possibly be defected and i do my best not to attract attention) or
> engine... actually the car in general. Oh btw its a l16.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Terry Rudd
> Sent: Friday, 12 July 2002 10:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: water probs
>
>
> James,
>
> The standard thermostat is 82C or 180F and that indicates just to the
> left of the E on the late model dash. Some gauges have a line there and
> some don't. On an early model dash I just forget where normal is, just
> to the left of vertical at an educated guess but I'm just not sure on
> that one, it's a long time since I was in a flip flopper. It's quite
> normal for the Temp gauge to move around about a 1/8" or so in either
> direction, especially if you have thermo fans etc. The voltage regulator
> in the 1600 dash isn't too flash either as it allows voltage
> fluctuations, turning lights on/off, heater on/off etc, but basically
> somewhere around the E is close enough. An L engine will run right up to
> P without any dramas, - we used to use Ford 192F thermostats in the
> rally engines all day with triple core radiators and the piddliest fan
> we could find and never had any dramas with them but these engines
> weren't idling in stop/start city traffic. We also found the L18 was the
> coolest running block of the L engines as they had a lot more water
> capacity than the L16, but a worked L20B also tends to strain the
> average 1600 cooling system a bit. Just don't run it cold, L engines are
> very grumpy when cold.
>
> regards
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James Morrison
> Sent: Friday, 12 July 2002 10:57 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: RE: water probs
>
>
> terry,
>       Okay, i'll run it tomorrow and once it gets to temp i'll take cap
> off and watch for bubbles, just out of curiosity whats the best standard
> running temp to have? and what do L20's and L18's run at (or should run
> at i should
> say?)
>
> Cheers
> James
>
> --- "Terry Rudd" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >James,
> >
> >Doesn't sound too good does it. One thing you shouldn't do is add water
>
> >to
> a
> >hot engine when it's not running, or at least if you do then don't
> >start
> the
> >engine for a good 10 to 15 minutes or so. Rapid changes in temperature
> reeks
> >havoc on metal components and head gaskets etc. It's quite normal for
> >the water in a cooling system to expand a bit and spill over the
> >radiator
> during
> >warm up, especially if the thermostat is in good order. Once the
> >thermostat has opened a couple of times everything settles down. It's
> >at normal operating temperature that if bubbles in the radiator are
> >expelled then
> it's
> >a gorna.
> >
> >regards
> >Terry
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >Wrom: VZCMHVIBGDADRZFSQHYUCDDJBLVLMHAALPTC
> >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of James
> >Morrison
> >Sent: Friday, 12 July 2002 10:01 PM
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: RE: water probs
> >
> >
> >terry, thanks. One thing i did notice was when i turned it off and
> >filled
> up
> >the radiator, it would rise out over the top (this was without the cap
> >on) and about 30 seconds later a big bubble would come up and the water
>
> >level would go below the cap (where its supposed to) and it repeated
> >itself 3 or
> 4
> >times. Also when i got home and switched off the car there was a
> >bubbleing and draining sound coming from the engine bay, thats when i
> >knew it was in trouble :) ahhh i hate being the bearer of bad news!!!
> >
> >James
> >
> >
> >
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