That is an original RS1600, and a very well built machine at that.  I
know that car and if you had a look at it you would see the aluminium
hats holding the rotors, the aluminium fluid reservoirs, and the
attention to detail which the RS1600 is noted for.

The same level of engineering can be achieved with Datsuns however the
'off the shelf' modifications aren't as easily achieved.  I can buy
factory motorsport equipment over the net for an escort and bolt it
straight in.  Quaife centres, x members, quick racks, 4 wheel discs etc.
The range is extensive due to the Escort being the UK's favourite rally
machine for so long.  I played with a lot of Escort gear when I was
toying with TR7 V8's as a lot of the equipment is interchangeable.
Colin Bond's TR8 rally car had all BDA Escort suspension under it.  

I still prefer Datsuns to the Escort, but I still have a very healthy
respect for them and they would be my weapon of choice when works parts
are totally unobtainable for Dattos.  That is, until CAMS let group 4
homologated cars run again

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of tobias walker
Sent: Monday, 22 July 2002 8:11 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: poll - geminis



Datsun (1600) 6666
Holden (Gemini) 1600
Ford (Escort) 284
Toyota (Celica, Corolla) 240
Mitsubishi (Sigma) 451

and on the esky point hwat do you spend on it to get it to beat the
datsun ? 
I was at Q rally and the BDA there was said to have had many many
thousands 
spent on it



>From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Subject: RE: poll - geminis
>Date: Sat, 20 Jul 2002 00:46:26 +1000
>
>You are kidding aren't you?
>
>I can sum up gemini bolt on performance in two words: Rodeo, Piazza
>
>A mate of mine built a stupidly fast Gemini a few years back and came 
>2nd in the ARN national junior rally challenge.  He built it from rodeo

>engine internals and piazza drivetrain.  All pretty straight forward 
>boltons.
>
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 11:24 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: poll - geminis
>
>
>Don't knock Geminis, they are actually quite good.
>The Isuzu engine is F**N excellent and the Gem is small light and has 
>R&P steering and double wishbone front suspension. They are expensive 
>to modify though and there are no cheap bolt-up swaps like for the 
>Datsuns...
>
>Datsuns are the best because they are so easy and cheap to modify, 
>stacks of fun to drive, they have the best sound on the dirt BAR NONE 
>and are tough little cars.
> >
> > From: "Brad Hallett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Subject: RE: poll
> > Date: 19/07/2002 10:08:29
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> > I've actually turned a spanner on extremely fast variants of all of 
> > these cars.  Even the Sigma.  Don' underestimetae the power of a 2.6

> > astron destroked to 2.4 with the balance shafts removed and twin 
> > 45's!
> >
> > Escorts are superb to build because absolutely everything can be 
> > bought off the shelf - world cup xmembers, quickrack steering, 
> > lsd's.
>
> > Pit they have a narrow track and fall over easily
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of maldat
> > Sent: Friday, 19 July 2002 9:31 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: poll
> >
> >
> > No way,,
> >
> > More people get into escorts than 1600;s and Im sorry to say thats a

> > fact people.(But we know whats better).  :-)
> >
> > Who in their right mind owns a Gemini let alone try and race one (ha

> > ha
> > ha);_)
> >
> > Sigma what a joke I shall leave that one alone.
> >
> > I would belive world wide the it would be between the escort and the

> > corolla.
> >
> >
> > Remember they made the rest to keep tossers out of 1600's.
> >
> > Malcolm
> >
> > Richard Clough wrote:
> >
> > > I think it looks pretty right!  Except perhaps, what happened to 
> > > the
>
> > > Toy/Celica owners?
> > >
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > >
> > >     From: Brad Hallett <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >     <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >
> > >     Sent: Thursday, 18 July 2002 18:39 PM
> > >
> > >     Subject: poll
> > >
> > >
> > >     Allright, who leaked our strategy to a Gemini 
> > > owner...............
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     Or do we have a double agent?????????
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >     [Poll]
> > >
> > > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.
> > > sl
> > > t/
> > >
>Mail/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1
> > > .3>
> > >
> > >     Which is the best old-school car for modifying?
> > >
> > >     The results so far...
> > >
> > > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.
> > > sl
> > > t/
> > >
>Mail/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1
> > > .3>
> > >
> > >     Datsun (1600)
> > >
> > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.sl
> > t/
> > Ma
> >
>il/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
> > >     5531
> > >     Holden (Gemini)
> > >
> > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.sl
> > t/
> > Ma
> >
>il/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
> > >     1245
> > >     Ford (Escort)
> > >
> > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.sl
> > t/
> > Ma
> >
>il/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
> > >     161
> > >     Toyota (Celica, Corolla)
> > >
> > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.sl
> > t/
> > Ma
> >
>il/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
> > >     118
> > >     Mitsubishi (Sigma)
> > >
> > <mailbox:///C|/Program%20Files/Netscape/Users/maldat/mal/8v7ohuel.sl
> > t/
> > Ma
> >
>il/pop3.paradise.net.nz/Inbox?number=3213043?header=quotebody&part=1.3>
> > >     410
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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