Also before you decrease the item expiration time; are the evictions that
bad? You can look at the "eviction age" for the different classes, which
says how long ago the last evicted item was accessed before being ejected.

Typically evictions are on the least used items, so they've been in the
cache the longest anyway. If you get benefit out of items typically being
able to store for 30 minutes, keep at it.

You can cut the LRU sleep to 0 and it's fine, but that's just the wait
between checks, not the scheduling before the next run.

reflocks you can ignore. it's mostly useful for me when looking at bug
reports. It just means when something looked at the tail, it was
refcounted. In old code that used to stop progress, but for the last few
years it's fine.

did you confirm if your traffic is spikey or not?

On Mon, 26 Jun 2017, red 888 wrote:

> Thanks for your help on this! So I'm currently bound to this version of 
> memcached (I'm using AWS Elasticache and this is the latest version they 
> support)
> so will have to make do for now.
> It seems before I try decreasing the item expiration time I should experiment 
> with tweaking the LRU sleep time? Would cutting the sleep time say in half
> be safe or is there a danger there?
>
> Also, I found a new memcached term I can't find a lot of info on if you'll 
> indulge me- what exactly are "reflocks"?
>
> On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 9:01:50 PM UTC-4, Dormando wrote:
>       Nice. Looks like you actually have new features enabled.
>
>       > STAT crawler_reclaimed 437349953
>       > STAT crawler_items_checked 217893516538
>
>       These stats tell me what I was saying before; you probably have a bunch 
> of
>       expired stuff in memory, when the crawler wakes up it reclaims a bunch 
> of
>       it. The spikes you're seeing may be because the crawler is sleeping too
>       long, or your traffic comes in bursts as well.
>
>       Some scheduling fixes for the LRU crawler went into the latest version, 
> I
>       think. Should smooth it out a bit.
>
>       you can also do a magic trick:
>
>       telnet to your server, and type "watch evictions" - which will show you
>       exactly what the objects getting evicted look like.
>
>       >
>       > ==================================== stats settings 
> =================================================
>       > stats settings
>       > STAT maxbytes 6787432448
>       > STAT launch_time_maxbytes 6787432448
>       > STAT maxconns 65000
>       > STAT tcpport 11211
>       > STAT udpport 11211
>       > STAT inter NULL
>       > STAT verbosity 1
>       > STAT oldest 0
>       > STAT evictions on
>       > STAT domain_socket NULL
>       > STAT umask 700
>       > STAT growth_factor 1.15
>       > STAT chunk_size 5
>       > STAT num_threads 2
>       > STAT num_threads_per_udp 2
>       > STAT stat_key_prefix :
>       > STAT detail_enabled no
>       > STAT reqs_per_event 20
>       > STAT cas_enabled yes
>       > STAT tcp_backlog 1024
>       > STAT binding_protocol auto-negotiate
>       > STAT auth_enabled_sasl no
>       > STAT item_size_max 1048576
>       > STAT config_max 16
>       > STAT config_size_max 65536
>       > STAT maxconns_fast yes
>       > STAT hashpower_init 16
>       > STAT slab_reassign yes
>       > STAT slab_automove 0
>       > STAT slab_chunk_max 524288
>       > STAT lru_crawler yes
>       > STAT lru_crawler_sleep 100
>       > STAT lru_crawler_tocrawl 0
>       > STAT tail_repair_time 0
>       > STAT flush_enabled yes
>       > STAT dump_enabled yes
>       > STAT hash_algorithm murmur3
>       > STAT lru_maintainer_thread yes
>       > STAT hot_lru_pct 32
>       > STAT warm_lru_pct 32
>       > STAT expirezero_does_not_evict no
>       > STAT idle_timeout 0
>       > STAT watcher_logbuf_size 262144
>       > STAT worker_logbuf_size 65536
>       > STAT track_sizes no
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       >
>       > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 7:53:56 PM UTC-4, Dormando wrote:
>       >       Can you paste the full output from the 'stats' command against 
> the server?
>       >       Also: "stats settings" would be great.
>       >
>       >       Also; do you know anything about your data? what the TTL's are, 
> for
>       >       instance? It's possible a bunch of stuff expires, which can get 
> reclaimed
>       >       quickly by some processes depending on your start arguments.
>       >
>       >       On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, red 888 wrote:
>       >
>       >       > Oh sorry! Version 1.4.34.
>       >       >
>       >       > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 4:52:18 PM UTC-4, Dormando 
> wrote:
>       >       >       Think I've asked this a few times; what version are you 
> running?
>       >       >
>       >       >       On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, red 888 wrote:
>       >       >
>       >       >       > So when I look at my stats I see no cmd_flush 
> commands are being run. cmd_flush
>       >       is 0
>       >       >       and stays at 0.
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       > On Thursday, June 22, 2017 at 12:44:28 PM UTC-4, 
> Dormando wrote:
>       >       >       >       Looks like a weird access pattern. you're 
> filling memory, evicting a bit,
>       >       >       >       then losing all of it at once. Is your 
> "cmd_flush" counter increasing?
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       On Thu, 22 Jun 2017, red 888 wrote:
>       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       > If I look at the slab stats over time I see 
> the % of chunks_used
>       >       (relative to
>       >       >       >       total_chunks) spike up (some slab classes hit 
> 45% some hit 75%) then
>       >       spike
>       >       >       >       > down and at the same time they are spiking 
> down evictions spike up.
>       >       This
>       >       >       happens about
>       >       >       >       every 2-4 minutes.
>       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       > I've attached a screen shot of this pattern 
> in a time series (raw stats
>       >       not
>       >       >       >       phpmemchacheadmin). In the graphs I'm filtering 
> for just one slab class
>       >       but I
>       >       >       >       > see this for all the most active slabs ( 
> roughly 5 active slab
>       >       classes).
>       >       >       >       > Inline image 2
>       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       > On Jun 21, 2017 2:27 PM, "dormando" 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>       >       >       >       >       Is the evictions counter increasing all 
> the time? It might only
>       >       be
>       >       >       >       >       completely full sometimes, which would 
> cause evictions (like
>       >       during
>       >       >       peak).
>       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       if used is less than total but 
> evictions is going up, either you
>       >       have an
>       >       >       >       >       old broken version of memcached or that 
> phpmemcachedadmin thing
>       >       is wrong,
>       >       >       >       >       and you should just look at the output 
> of the "stats items" and
>       >       "stats
>       >       >       >       >       slabs" commands.
>       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       On Wed, 21 Jun 2017, red 888 wrote:
>       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       > Here is a snap shot of one of my slab 
> class's stats (from
>       >       >       PHPMemcachedAdmin):
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       > [Capture.PNG]
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       > So what I'm confused about is why, 
> with my used_chunks so low,
>       >       am I
>       >       >       getting
>       >       >       >       evictions for this slab class?
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       > used_chunks are chunks with items 
> that have not expired yet and
>       >       >       total_chunks is
>       >       >       >       all allocated chunks including chunks with 
> items that
>       >       >       >       >       _have_ expired
>       >       >       >       >       > correct?
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       >
>       >       >       >       >       > If thats the case it means if 25% of 
> the allocated chunks are
>       >       "used"
>       >       >       and 75% of
>       >       >       >       the allocated chunks have expired. So it should 
> have plenty
>       >       >       >       >       of chunks to
>       >       >       >       >       > reclaim before having to evict I 
> would think.
>       >       >       >       >       >
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