In the 1940s, in middle America, at a public grade school, I remember
absolutely NO prayer(s). Perhaps this is only anecdotal. I feel
certain that the district wasn't more enlightened than many other
places.

On Sep 7, 3:26 pm, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> From my memory, prayer was not taken out of school.  Just the teacher
> lead or administration led prayer was removed on Constitutional
> grounds.  I like the Japan argument.
>
> stemcell
>
> On Sep 7, 1:50 pm, "Angelia Stinnett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>
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> > The editor's won't let me address her directly and will make me hold off on
> > writing a rebuttal, but the Memphis Free Thought Alliance Members can do it
> > much quicker and with less restraint than I will have to use. As a
> > columnist, I am liable or at least the Sun is for what we write, however,
> > the writer to the editor can speak much more freely, so sock it to her.
>
> > And yeah, I react with hostility toward the religious when they're so
> > fucking stupid as to enforce Christianity in government, which includes
> > schools. As Sam Harris writes, "why should we be tolerant of ignorance, even
> > when it comes within Christianity?"
>
> > Here's the arguments that can be used in a letter to the editor: prayer was
> > taken out of schools in the 80s, the 90s had the greatest decline in violent
> > crimes since WWII, . The decline of the 90s followed a boom in crime rates
> > that occurred during the 60s and 70s, when prayer was still in school.
> > During that time high school drop out rate fell from 14.6 in 1972 to 11.0 in
> > 1993.
>
> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 11:33 AM, Taylor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > <<I wonder if calling Kathi Peacock a "stupid ass" helps the
> > > discussion
> > > or adds to the argument. >>
>
> > > I have to agree with Jason.
>
> > > Angelia, you tend to react with hostility towards the religious.
> > > EDUCATE them.  Why not write an article dispelling this idea that "all
> > > of our problems" started with getting prayer out of the school.  Use
> > > evidence and reason.- Hide quoted text -
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