I thought he gave a good example of how a theist could be a
freethinker.  Surely it deserves more in the way of a rebuttal than "I
disagree."  Why do you disagree?

On Oct 28, 10:55 am, Clogtowner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi y'all - I think Crotchbow is appealing. I don't agree with the
> article posted by Aaron. The CFA definition is fine with me. Of
> course, if we accept a theist as being a true believer and not just
> someone who attends church for social reasons etc. then they are not
> practicing freethought as their faith is illogical (Mr. Spock episode
> 284 11/2/84.) I do agree with the article in respect to all atheists
> not being freethinkers - some are just too lazy to think.
> Nevertheless, I feel that Freethinker is a good umbrella term, and as
> pointed out, is unrestrictive versus confining.
>
> On Oct 27, 3:37 pm, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > I think Crotchblow has a point.  In the early days we went through
> > this.  But before I go any further, I would like to ask Aaron what
> > prompted you to post that link?  Are you considering that it would be
> > an idea to consider changing the name of MFA?  It is the name.  It is
> > inclusive.  It is inviting (I think).  Why should MFA change the name
> > just to bow down to certain groups who feel it is offensive.  I am
> > getting to far along in thought so I'll just wait till I hear your
> > response to those previous questions.
>
> > :-)
>
> > stemcell
>
> > On Oct 27, 1:47 pm, CrossBow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > This is about ownership of a definition as an organization.  WE can
> > > either show ownership and give this word a bent in respect to the
> > > organizations mission, or we can leave it as an open-ended question,
> > > thereby allowing any existing and future members to give it thier own
> > > personal meaning without holding them captive to it.
>
> > > Well and so, if you have a concrete mission you should have a concrete
> > > bent to brand the whole to be easily identified...Replace the
> > > organizational name with any other representation wording and what do
> > > you get? Memphis Freethough Alliance...Memphis Secular Alliance?
> > > Memphis Skeptic Alliance? Who is your target member?
>
> > > FREE - unrestricted vs. captive?
> > > THINKING - not something encouraged by any diety or theism I know
> > > of....
>
> > > It works for my framework and perceptions limited though they are.
>
> > > On Oct 27, 12:50 pm, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > > It was probably a mistake for me to post the first paragraph of
> > > > Lowder's essay or to offer a summary.  It's too easy (and perfectly
> > > > natural) for people to respond to my blurb rather than to the essay
> > > > itself.  I'm always happy to hear what my fellow freethinkers think,
> > > > but I am especially interested in your review of the specific ideas
> > > > expressed in the essay and how they might impact MFA.
>
> > > >http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/lowder1.html
>
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