By the way, stem cell, I found your football analogy intriguing, but I haven't had time to think it through properly. Maybe we can talk about it over a beer sometime soon.
Aaron On Nov 3, 11:18 pm, stem cell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Thank you Aaron. > > On Nov 3, 9:52 pm, Aaron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I'm still thinking about Jeffery Lowder's essay. I looked at his > > logic in the last thread and found it convincing. A freethinker can > > (in theory) be a theist as long as he uses the epistemology of > > freethought to arrive at his belief. As Bertrand Russell said, "What > > makes a free thinker is not his beliefs, but the way in which he holds > > them." The criticisms have (so far) been beside the point or > > addressed in the assumptions of the argument. > > > So much for logic and theory, but surely there are practical limits to > > what a freethinker can believe, right? Evangelical Christians are not > > freethinkers, as Lowder admits. Mind you, this is *not* because they > > believe in God. It's because they have adopted a different > > epistemology - one that includes faith and subjugation of the mind. > > > Besides, the arguments for a deity are "played." Any legitimate > > rationale for God would surely have been discovered by now. The only > > appropriate conclusion appears to be non-theism in some form. > > Technically, we should remain open to new evidence, but practically > > such evidence would be regarded with considerable skepticism. > > > But think of it this way. Freethought (in practice) is pragmatic, > > interactive, skeptical and tentative in its conclusions. Like > > science, it takes human fallibility seriously. It is (practically) a > > foregone conclusion that all of us hold some false beliefs which we > > think are true. The only hope of weeding out (some of) those false > > beliefs is to remain engaged in freethought - admitting we might be > > wrong, interacting with other freethinkers, practicing critical > > thinking, etc. > > > It is this engagement that makes us freethinkers. > > > So, yes, as long as the theist is playing the game in good faith, I > > have no problem calling him a freethinker. Anything else would be > > impractical - even a little hypocritical. For me, at least. > > >http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/features/2000/lowder1.html > > > Aaron- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/memphisfreethoughtalliance?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
