Hi y'all - it seems to demonstrate to me that many white collar
criminals get caught.

On Dec 13, 6:48 pm, Taylor <[email protected]> wrote:
> I'm curious as to what you think this article demonstrates.
>
> On Dec 13, 11:45 am, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> >http://www.nytimes.com/
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> > December 13, 2008
> > Now Accused of Fraud, Wall St. Wizard Had His Skeptics
> > By ALEX BERENSON and DIANA B. HENRIQUES
> > For years, investors, rivals and regulators all wondered how Bernard
> > L. Madoff worked his magic.
> > But on Friday, less than 24 hours after this prominent Wall Street
> > figure was arrested on charges connected with what authorities
> > portrayed as the biggest Ponzi scheme in financial history, hard
> > questions began to be raised about whether Mr. Madoff acted alone and
> > why his suspected con game was not uncovered sooner.
> > As investors from Palm Beach to New York to London counted their
> > losses on Friday in what Mr. Madoff himself described as a $50 billion
> > fraud, federal authorities took control of what remained of his firm
> > and began to pore over its books.
> > But some investors said they had questioned Mr. Madoff’s supposed
> > investment prowess years ago, pointing to his unnaturally steady
> > returns, his vague investment strategy and the obscure accounting firm
> > that audited his books.
> > Despite these and other red flags, hedge fund companies kept promoting
> > Mr. Madoff’s funds to other funds and individuals. More recently,
> > banks like Nomura, the Japanese firm, began soliciting investors for
> > Mr. Madoff internationally. The Securities and Exchange Commission,
> > which investigated Mr. Madoff in 1992 but cleared him of wrongdoing,
> > appears to have been completely surprised by the charges of fraud.
> > Now thousands, possibly tens of thousands, of investors confront
> > losses that range from serious to devastating. Some families said on
> > Friday that they believed they had lost all their savings. A charity
> > in Massachusetts said it had lost essentially its entire endowment and
> > would have to close.
> > According to an affidavit sworn out by federal agents, Mr. Madoff
> > himself said the fraud had totaled approximately $50 billion, a figure
> > that would dwarf any previous financial fraud.
> > At first, the figure seemed impossibly large. But as the reports of
> > losses mounted on Friday, the $50 billion figure looked increasingly
> > plausible. One hedge fund advisory firm alone, Fairfield Greenwich
> > Group, said on Friday that its clients had invested $7.5 billion with
> > Mr. Madoff.
> > The collapse of Mr. Madoff’s firm is yet another blow in a devastating
> > year for Wall Street and investors. While Mr. Madoff’s firm was not a
> > hedge fund, the scope of the fraud is likely to increase pressure on
> > hedge funds to accept greater regulation and transparency and protect
> > their investors.
> > On Thursday, the Federal Bureau of Investigation and S.E.C. said that
> > Mr. Madoff’s firm, Bernard L. Madoff Investment Securities, ran a
> > giant Ponzi scheme, a type of fraud in which earlier investors are
> > paid off with money raised from later victims — until no money can be
> > raised and the scheme collapses.
> > Most Ponzi schemes collapse relatively quickly, but there is
> > fragmentary evidence that Mr. Madoff’s scheme may have lasted for
> > years or even decades. A Boston whistle-blower has claimed that he
> > tried to alert the S.E.C. to the scheme as early as 1999, and the
> > weekly newspaper Barron’s raised questions about Mr. Madoff’s returns
> > and strategy in 2001, although it did not accuse him of wrongdoing.
> > Investors may have been duped because Mr. Madoff sent detailed
> > brokerage statements to investors whose money he managed, sometimes
> > reporting hundreds of individual stock trades per month. Investors who
> > asked for their money back could have it returned within days. And
> > while typical Ponzi schemes promise very high returns, Mr. Madoff’s
> > promised returns were relatively realistic — about 10 percent a year —
> > though they were unrealistically steady.
> > Mr. Madoff was not running an actual hedge fund, but instead managing
> > accounts for investors inside his own securities firm. The difference,
> > though seemingly minor, is crucial. Hedge funds typically hold their
> > portfolios at banks and brokerage firms like JPMorgan Chase and
> > Goldman Sachs. Outside auditors can check with those banks and
> > brokerage firms to make sure the funds exist.
> > But because he had his own securities firm, Mr. Madoff kept custody
> > over his clients’ accounts and processed all their stock trades
> > himself. His only check appears to have been Friehling & Horowitz, a
> > tiny auditing firm based in New City, N.Y. Wealthy individuals and
> > other money managers entrusted billions of dollars to funds that in
> > turn invested in his firm, based on his reputation and reported
> > returns.
> > Victims of the scam included gray-haired grandmothers in Florida,
> > investment companies in London, and charities and universities across
> > the United States. The Wilpon family, the main owners of the New York
> > Mets, and Yeshiva University both confirmed that they had invested
> > with Mr. Madoff, and a Jewish charity in Massachusetts said it would
> > lay off its five employees and close after losing nearly all of its $7
> > million endowment. Other investors included prominent Jewish families
> > in New York and Florida.
> > On Friday afternoon, investors and lawyers for investors with Mr.
> > Madoff packed Judge Louis L. Stanton’s courtroom at federal court in
> > Manhattan, hoping to question lawyers for Mr. Madoff and the S.E.C.
> > But a deputy for Judge Stanton canceled the hearing, leaving investors
> > with few answers. Several investors said they were planning to file
> > lawsuits against the firm in the hope of recovering some money.
> > Based on the vagueness of the complaints against Mr. Madoff, his
> > confession, as detailed in court filings, seems to have taken the
> > F.B.I. and S.E.C. by surprise. Investigators have not explained when
> > they believe the fraud began, how much money was ultimately lost and
> > whether Mr. Madoff lost investors’ money in the markets, spent it, or
> > both. It is not even clear whether Mr. Madoff actually made any of the
> > trades he reported to investors.
> > The F.B.I. and S.E.C. have also not said whether they believe Mr.
> > Madoff acted alone. According to the authorities, Mr. Madoff told
> > F.B.I. agents that the scheme was his alone. He worked closely with
> > his brother, sons and other family members, many of whom have retained
> > lawyers.
> > Also likely to face very difficult questions are the hedge funds,
> > investment advisers and banks that raised money for Mr. Madoff. At
> > least some big investment advisers steered clients away from putting
> > money with Mr. Madoff, believing the returns could not be real.
> > Robert Rosenkranz, principal of Acorn Partners, which helps wealthy
> > clients choose money managers, said the steadiness of the returns that
> > Mr. Madoff reported did not make sense, and the size of his auditor
> > raised further concerns.
> > “Our due diligence, which got into both account statements of his
> > customers, and the audited statements of Madoff Securities, which he
> > filed with the S.E.C., made it seem highly likely that the account
> > statements themselves were just pieces of paper that were generated in
> > connection with some sort of fraudulent activity,” Mr. Rosenkranz
> > said.
> > Simon Fludgate, head of operational due diligence for Aksia, another
> > advisory firm that told clients not to invest with Mr. Madoff, said
> > the secrecy of his strategy also raised red flags. And Mr. Madoff’s
> > stock holdings, which he disclosed each quarter with the Securities
> > and Exchange Commission, appeared to be too small to support the size
> > of the fund he claimed. Mr. Madoff’s promoters sometimes tried to
> > explain the discrepancy by explaining that he sold all his shares at
> > the end of each quarter and put his holdings in cash.
> > “There were no smoking guns, but too many things that didn’t add up,”
> > Mr. Fludgate said.
> > However, the S.E.C. had already investigated Mr. Madoff and two
> > accountants who raised money for him in 1992, believing they might
> > have found a Ponzi scheme. “We went into this thing just thinking it
> > might be a huge catastrophe,” an S.E.C. official told The Wall Street
> > Journal in December 1992.
> > Instead, Mr. Madoff turned out to have delivered the returns that the
> > investment advisers had promised their clients. It is not clear
> > whether the results of the 1992 inquiry discouraged the S.E.C. from
> > examining Mr. Madoff again, even when new red flags surfaced. Lawyers
> > at the S.E.C. did not return calls.
> > Meanwhile, Fairfield Greenwich Group, whose clients have $7.5 billion
> > invested with the Madoff firm, said it was “shocked and appalled by
> > this news.”
> > “We had no indication that we and many other firms and private
> > investors were the victims of such a highly sophisticated, massive
> > fraudulent scheme.”
> > At the court hearing, an individual investor, who declined to give his
> > name to avoid embarrassment, expressed a similar sentiment.
> > “Nobody knows where their money is and whether it is protected,” the
> > investor said.
> > “The returns were just amazing and we trusted this guy for decades —
> > if you wanted to take money out, you always got your check in a few
> > days. That’s why we were all so stunned.”
> > Zachery Kouwe and Stephanie Strom contributed reporting.
>
> > On Dec 12, 6:29 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > clog, your analogy and anecdotal experience are similar to the local
> > > of where you live….way out in the country.
>
> > > On Dec 12, 12:47 pm, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote:
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> > > > Hi y'all - if he's talking about toasters and the like, I still
> > > > disagree. Try buying a toaster in Europe or many other places. The
> > > > ultimate example of Govt.
>
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