Ha. She thinks very fine on her own, but she is a new Mom and asked me for
help because she TRUSTS me.  So, off I go to ask those I trust to advise
me:).  The contradictory information on the net is more frightening than
asking a friend who's child has already had the vaccines.  Trusting Doctor's
on this controversial subject has regretably become shaky, after all, big
Pharma has a stake in selling thier product, and who gets the kickback from
using thier product..the same doctor that gives the shots.

Plus...she has prego-brain she is going to worry no matter what:)

thanks for the info I am sure it was enough to keep her busy for a while:)



On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Liz Purkrabek <[email protected]>wrote:

>
> LOL!  Thinking on her own?  Why, that could be dangerous to the status quo!
> :-)
>
> liz
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected]
> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of
> Isparklaria
> Sent: Tuesday, January 13, 2009 9:16 AM
> To: Memphis Freethought Alliance
> Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked?
>
>
>  I found a link to that article that is against modifying tha vaccine
> schedule. It follows below. I am goint to suggest a course of action
> that some of you may consider radical. Here it is: This friend of
> yours would be well advised to do some serious research and thinking
> on her own rather than let this small bit of information inform her
> decision about such an important matter.
>
> http://www.cispimmunize.org/fam/schedule_whysomany.html
>
>
> The following article is taken from the January 2009 issue of AAP
> News.
> Adhering to vaccine schedule is best way to protect children from
> disease
> Margaret C. Fisher, M.D., FAAP and Joseph A. Bocchini, Jr., M.D.,
> FAAP
>
> Vaccination rates are at a record high level, and rates of almost
> every vaccine-preventable disease continue to drop. Now that we are
> seeing fewer infections, however, we are beginning to encounter more
> hesitancy in vaccine acceptance. Parents are asking: Why is the
> vaccine schedule one size fits all, why so many vaccines, why start so
> early, why not spread out the schedule?
>
> Following is information regarding the development of the vaccine
> schedule and the rationale behind it.
>
> The vaccine schedule is published yearly in January; on occasion, the
> schedule has been updated during the year. These schedules are
> developed by the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices of the
> Centers for Disease Control and Prevention with input from the AAP
> Committee on Infectious Diseases and the American Academy of Family
> Physicians (see sidebar).
>
> The vaccine schedule undergoes vigorous scientific and evidence-based
> review each year. The schedule is designed to protect children from
> vaccine-preventable diseases as soon as possible and is appropriate
> for the majority of children.
>
> Why is the schedule one size fits all?
>
> Decisions regarding an individual child's immunizations are not one
> size fits all.
>
> Exceptions to the schedule are made when there is a reason to delay or
> omit a vaccine. Contraindications and precautions are taken into
> account for each vaccine in the series and at the time of each dose.
> Additional vaccine strategies are utilized in patients with special
> clinical circumstances, such as immunocompromised children and those
> with chronic diseases. Furthermore, the schedule is adjusted for
> situations such as planned international travel and for catch-up.
>
> Why so many vaccines?
>
> To us, this is part of the good news. Now, we can prevent 16 serious
> illnesses and their consequences in girls and 15 in boys through
> routinely recommended immunizations. Making it possible for their
> children to receive vaccines is one of the important ways parents can
> keep their children healthy.
>
> In fact, we look forward to when we will have vaccines to prevent or
> modify infections due to respiratory syncytial virus, Staphylococcus
> aureus, Streptococcus pyogenes and other agents.
>
> Why do some vaccines require multiple doses?
>
> Immunity following a single dose of some vaccines is either incomplete
> or short-lived. Using a series of doses improves the percentage of
> patients who develop immunity and the duration of such immunity. These
> vaccines also require booster doses to maintain long-term protection.
>
> Some people are concerned that giving a number of vaccines at the same
> time may not be safe. However, prior to vaccine licensure, the Food
> and Drug Administration requires studies to evaluate the safety and
> response to the new vaccine when the other vaccines recommended for
> that age are given at the same visit. The studies also must evaluate
> whether the new vaccine alters the response to the other vaccines.
> This information is reviewed carefully before decisions are made about
> adding a vaccine to the schedule.
>
> Why start so early?
>
> The decision as to when to give a vaccine is based on the epidemiology
> of the vaccine preventable disease. Often, these diseases are more
> severe in younger children. Therefore, we start early to ensure that
> the youngest and often most fragile are protected as soon as
> possible.
>
> For example, most deaths due to pertussis occur in infants younger
> than 6 months of age. The peak incidence of meningitis due to
> Haemophilus influenzae type b before the introduction of conjugate
> vaccine was approximately 9 months of age.
>
> Prior to birth, a baby receives antibodies from the mother. These
> maternal antibodies provide protection against many of the previously
> "usual childhood infections" such as measles, mumps and chickenpox,
> and bacteria such as H. influenzae and Streptococcus pneumoniae. The
> levels of these antibodies decrease with each month of age so that by
> 6 months, protection is minimal. The vaccine schedule ensures that
> while the levels of maternal antibody are falling, infants are
> developing their own antibodies due to immunizations.
>
> The goal is to protect the infant as soon as possible; the current
> schedule has essentially eliminated Haemophilus and greatly decreased
> the incidence of invasive pneumococcal disease.
>
> For measles, mumps, rubella and varicella, we wait until all maternal
> antibody is gone so that these live vaccines are not inactivated by
> residual maternal antibody. Because of the success of vaccines, the
> incidence of these viral infections is quite low so there is little
> risk of infection in the first year of life. However, if vaccination
> rates fall and measles outbreaks increase as they have this past year
> in the United States, we will begin to see more cases of measles not
> only in children whose parents refuse vaccination but also in children
> too young to receive the vaccine.
>
> Why not spread out the schedule?
>
> Spreading out the schedule would leave a child unprotected.
> Furthermore, there is no reason to expect that spreading out the
> schedule would decrease adverse events.
>
> Spreading out the schedule also would increase the number of visits to
> a physician and would increase the number of visits that require an
> immunization. Such a schedule would increase the number of unprotected
> children in the population, which would decrease the benefits of herd
> immunity. Since there is no advantage but several disadvantages, there
> is no logic to spreading out the schedule.
>
> Parents who are considering delaying their child's immunizations need
> to be made aware that they are putting their child at risk. Although
> the incidence of most vaccine-preventable diseases in the United
> States is very low, they are low because the majority of U.S. children
> are immunized. As a result, the circulation of many of these organisms
> has been interrupted. However, these pathogens can be reintroduced
> easily into a population as a result of today's mobile society. If
> enough children are not immunized, we will see outbreaks of these
> vaccine-preventable diseases.
>
> In areas of Great Britain where measles immunization rates have
> decreased, outbreaks are occurring, prompting mass immunization
> campaigns. Similarly, pertussis outbreaks occurred within a few years
> in countries where pertussis immunization was discontinued.
>
> Immunizations have been a major public health success story. The
> vaccine schedule has evolved over the past 50 years based on
> scientific evidence. Following this schedule is the best way to
> protect your patients from these diseases. Please continue to
> encourage your families to have their children immunized on time;
> children are our future, and it is our job to protect them. Agencies
> collaborate on vaccine schedules
> Many experts are involved in the development of the vaccine
> schedules.
> The Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) is made up of
> 15 members who include experts in infectious diseases and public
> health and a consumer representative. In addition, ex-officio
> representatives from national and international medical, infectious
> disease, public health, nursing and pharmacist organizations as well
> as governmental agencies participate in deliberations and provide
> input to ACIP. The Academy is represented by two members of the
> Committee on Infectious Diseases (COID).
>
> COID consists of 12 pediatric infectious disease experts appointed to
> serve two-year terms, a representative of the AAP Section on
> Infectious Diseases, several consultants who are pediatric infectious
> disease experts, and liaisons from the Centers for Disease Control and
> Prevention, American Academy of Family Physicians, Canadian Pediatric
> Society, National Institutes of Health, Food and Drug Administration
> and the American Thoracic Society.
>
>
>
>
> Dr. Fisher is chair of the AAP Section on Infectious Diseases
> executive committee. Dr. Bocchini is chair of the AAP Committee on
> Infectious Diseases.
>
>
>
> On Jan 13, 9:09 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Here are two article, one pro and one con, about spreading out the
> > vaccines.
> >
> > http://www.askdrsears.com/thevaccinebook/labels/Alternative%20Vaccine...
> >
> > Actually you can't get to the second one without being a subscriber,
> > but here is a link to the web page anyway. It has some useful
> > information.
> >
> > http://aapnews.aappublications.org/cgi/content/citation/30/1/4
> >
> > Last of all is a link to a google search on "spreading" "out"
> > "vaccine" "schedule"
> >
> > CNN.com and Dr. Bob help parents answer the question, "Should I
> > vaccinate my baby?"
> > Wednesday, June 25, 2008
> >
> > CNN correspondent Elizabeth Cohen explores how parents attempt to
> > answer this question, and how various doctors across the nation are
> > responding to parents' concerns, in her weekly column 
> > onwww.CNN.com<http://onwww.cnn.com/>
> >
> > I believe vaccines are very important and have played a tremendous
> > role in limiting many serious diseases in our country, as do all of
> > the doctors interviewed by Elizabeth for her column. However, more and
> > more parents are concerned and want to take an approach that varies
> > from the regular CDC schedule. I believe that if more and more doctors
> > offer parents such options, we will have better vaccination rates than
> > we are seeing now.
> >
> > Here are just a few of the options that Elizabeth presented in her
> > column:
> >
> > Don't give the Hepatitis B vaccine to newborns in the hospital.
> > Because this shot can cause fever, lethargy, and poor feeding
> > (problems you don't want to see in a newborn), it's better to delay
> > this shot for the first two months of life, especially since the
> > disease doesn't even occur in newborns (it's a sexually-transmitted
> > disease).
> > Checking "titers" (blood immunity levels) for various shots before
> > doing boosters. Some kids don't need some of the booster shots at age
> > 5 years because their original infant series may still be working just
> > fine. While this is a costly and time-consuming approach, some parents
> > prefer it instead of automatically getting all the boosters.
> > Getting fewer shots at each infant checkup and spreading the shots out
> > over more time. This is the hallmark of Dr. Bob's Alternative Vaccine
> > Schedule.
> > Limiting large combination shots. Some parents prefer to split some of
> > the combo shots into separate components to decrease the chance of a
> > reaction. While we don't know if this precaution even helps, it is an
> > option that some doctors like to provide for concerned parents.
> > The bottom line is that more and more parents want options. If we
> > don't provide them with options they are comfortable with, more
> > parents will opt out of vaccines altogether. We will then see more and
> > more disease fatalities and complications.
> >
> > Dr. Bob
> >
> > Labels: Alternative Vaccine Schedule
> >
> > posted by Sears Family @ 9:44 AM   Post your comment - 25 Comments
> >
> > Larry King Show Continues to Raise Questions About Vaccines and
> > Autism
> > Thursday, April 3, 2008
> >
> > Last night's show was a great mix of pro-vaccine doctors, doctors who
> > have some concerns about vaccines, and parents who are demanding a
> > different vaccine schedule. While everyone on both sides had good
> > things to say, as expected there really was no conclusion reached and
> > most parents are still probably just as confused as ever.
> >
> > I've looked at all the research, and I'm still confused as well. There
> > is no clear answer on whether or not vaccines contribute to autism.
> > But there is one thing that is very clear – more research needs to be
> > done. Well, make that two things – more and more parents are going to
> > decline vaccines unless they are offered an alternative vaccine
> > schedule.
> >
> > So, while the scientists, doctors, government officials, and parents
> > battle it out over the next couple of decades, here's what YOU, the
> > concerned and confused parent with a little baby waiting for vaccines,
> > can do NOW. Educate yourself about all the pros and cons of vaccines,
> > understand the risk of diseases versus the rare risk of a vaccine side
> > effect, look at all the research that does exist so far, and when you
> > do decide you are comfortable beginning shots, vaccinate according to
> > my Alternative Vaccine Schedule or my Selective Vaccine Schedule.
> >
> > I do believe change is in the wind, but it may be a very gentle breeze
> > that takes many years to fill the sails (nice metaphor, huh? Or is
> > that a simile? Never could get that straight. Maybe it's an analogy).
> > For now, I encourage parents to follow one of my suggested vaccine
> > schedules.
> > Labels: Alternative Vaccine Schedule
> >
> > posted by Dr. Bob Sears @ 2:40 PM   Post your comment - 26 Comments
> >
> > Alternative Vaccine Schedule vs. Regular Vaccine Schedule: How do I
> > switch?
> > Thursday, November 29, 2007
> >
> > How do I switch to the Alternative Vaccine Schedule if I've already
> > started my baby on the regular vaccine schedule?
> >
> > All of you have expressed so much interest in switching to the
> > alternative vaccine schedule, but you aren't quite sure how to do it
> > since you've started getting some shots already. I suppose I should
> > have foreseen this situation when I wrote the book.
> >
> > The most common situation I hear about is a parent who has already
> > given their baby the 2 and/or 4 month shots, and now wants to switch
> > to an alternative schedule. Here's how to do that. Make a copy of my
> > alternative schedule and cross off everything that your baby has
> > already had, no matter when it is due on my schedule. Then at your
> > baby's next checkup continue with whatever is due according to my
> > schedule. This most likely will be DTaP and Rota, then Pc and HIB a
> > month later.
> >
> > What about the shots that your baby already had at 2 and/or 4 months
> > that are NOT on my schedule until later during infancy or childhood?
> > The two shots this mainly applies to are Hep B and polio. If your baby
> > already had polio at 2 and 4 months, you would not get any more until
> > 2 years. If your baby only had one polio shot, you'd pick up the next
> > one at 12 months.
> >
> > As for Hep B, you will notice I don't usually give this until age 2 or
> > 3 years. If your baby has already had 2, then you would just wait to
> > get the third between age 3 and 4. If your baby has only had 1 Hep B,
> > get the second at 2 ½ and the third at 3 years.
> >
> > Here are a few other things to know. It's fine to switch brands of
> > vaccines anytime you want. You can also switch from any combination
> > vaccine to using individual ones. The hard part will be convincing
> > your doctor to order a different brand just for you. If you have a few
> > other friends with similar age kids going to the same doctor, that
> > might make it easier if you all gang up on your doctor together.
> > (Kidding, of course). Alternatively, the doctor can give you a
> > prescription for a single dose through a pharmacy. Hopefully as more
> > patients make these requests doctors will become more compliant.
> >
> > Second, don't worry if you mess up the actual spacing of each series
> > of shots. The spacing is flexible. For example, even though the first
> > three DTaP shots are supposed to be 2 months apart each, don't worry
> > if this gets spaced out further. And if you get only one or two polios
> > or Hep Bs early on, but then delay the rest for some years, you don't
> > have to start the whole series over. You just pick up where you left
> > off.
> >
> > Third, if you are starting the schedule late, such as at 4 or 6
> > months, don't hurry to catch up. Just start the schedule as if your
> > baby was 2 months old, and you'll go through the whole thing but
> > always be 2 to 4 months behind.
> >
> > Here's an example of someone who already had the 2 and 4 month shots
> > but who now wants to switch. At six months you would just get DTaP and
> > Rota, then at 7 months HIB and Pc. By nine months, you would skip
> > polio because you've already gotten it at 2 and 4 months. You may get
> > the flu shot though. At 12 months get mumps, but NOT polio again since
> > you already got the 2nd dose at 4 months. At 15 months it's Pc and
> > HIB, and at 18 months it's DTaP and Chickenpox. You continue on from
> > there according to the schedule.
> >
> > I hope this makes sense. Your doctor will be able to help you figure
> > out the details.
> > Labels: Alternative Vaccine Schedule
> >
> > posted by Dr. Bob Sears @ 11:39 AM   Post your comment - 76 Comments
> >
> > How to talk to your doctor about following an Alternative Vaccine
> > Schedule
> > Monday, October 29, 2007
> >
> > Many parents today are looking for a different approach to vaccines.
> > But most doctors feel that the standard vaccine schedule is so
> > important that they are unwilling to work with such parents. Well, I
> > have good news. Times are changing. The American Academy of Pediatrics
> > now recommends that doctors work with parents who have questions and
> > concerns and want to do things a little differently. The new AAP
> > guidelines are listed in the 2006 Red Book of Infectious Diseases – a
> > manual that almost every pediatrician owns. In the Book, the AAP
> > suggests:
> >
> > A non-judgmental approach is best. Listen carefully and respectfully
> > to the parent's concerns.
> > Inform the parents of the risks and benefits of each vaccine as well
> > as the risks of each disease.
> > For parents who are concerned about multiple vaccines at one visit,
> > develop a schedule that spreads the vaccines out.
> > Continued refusal to vaccinate after adequate discussion should be
> > respected (unless the child is at significant risk of serious harm
> > during an epidemic).
> > In general, pediatricians should avoid dismissing patients from their
> > practice solely because of refusal to vaccinate.
> >
> > But parents who have concerns and extra questions about vaccines need
> > to understand the best way to talk to their doctor. You can't wait
> > until your baby's two-month appointment, wait until your doctor is
> > done examining the baby, then suddenly hit the doctor with a dozen
> > questions. It takes a good 15 to 30 minutes to discuss vaccine
> > concerns and options in detail. Us doctors don't have the time to do
> > this within the normal amount of
> >
> > read more »...
>
>
> >
>


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