"...use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships." - J
And, of course, there 'is no credible evidence that smoking can damage your health'. On Jan 14, 7:37 am, "Jason (Memphis)" <[email protected]> wrote: > Something similar to that is how these studies are almost always done, > that is, correlational studies. The researchers never (almost never > anyway) systematically manipulate variables to watch/measure the > detrimental effects on the people. Instead, the researchers watch > those events happen naturally in the environment or culture and then > use the correlations to draw plausible casual relationships. > > On Jan 14, 9:13 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > I was suggesting a demographic atatisical study. There are years where > > little or no vaccinations were given years where many vaccinations > > were given. Within those years when many vaccinations were given there > > are individuals who didn't have their children vaccinated and possible > > some who used a modified vaacination schedule (maybe even enough of > > these to see some correlation). There are also populations in other > > nations that have a different vaccination schedule than the USA. All > > in all it is likley that some correlation can be found. Of course when > > you are looking at other nations you are to some degree comparing > > apples and oranges. However, at the end of the day it is likley that > > better suggestions can be made as well as allowing people to make up > > their own minds, which they are allowed to do now in the USA. > > > On Jan 14, 8:51 am, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > See, that's why you DON'T TELL the parents that it will be dangerous. And > > > you make sure to choose only stupid and/or ugly children to participate. > > > > Liz > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: [email protected] > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Jason > > > (Memphis) > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 8:45 AM > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been debunked? > > > > good luck with getting parents to volunteer their kids for that study > > > especially a schedule that is likely to handicap their child. > > > > On Jan 13, 8:40 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > "...At the very least studies need to be done, by an independent > > > > group, to determine if the vaccination schedule should be > > > > modified. ..." Ish > > > > > Rhetorical question: Who is going to pay for this 'independent group's > > > > study? > > > > > On Jan 13, 6:59 am, Isparklaria <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > What I don't understand is why so many vaccinations have to be > > > > > administered in such a short time to very young babies. It seems to me > > > > > that some vaccinations might be eliminated and the rest spread out > > > > > more. Hey, but what do I know; I don't make make any money on this. > > > > > What is relevant is that I am not an immunologist. At the very least > > > > > studies need to be done, by an independent group, to determine if the > > > > > vaccination schedule should be modified. It might also be good to get > > > > > beyond statistics and try to figure which children, if any, might be > > > > > harmed by over vaccination. Treating people as statisitics is not the > > > > > way to go, if it is possible to do more. It would be a small > > > > > consolation to the parents os a damaged child to know that they made > > > > > the right choice for a hypothetical child but the wrong choice for > > > > > their very real flesh and blood child. > > > > > > On Jan 12, 9:49 pm, ornamentalmind <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > When I found out that the drug companies had lobbied for and > > > > > > achieved > > > > > > bills to be passed that made it impossible for parents to sue them > > > > > > for > > > > > > 'side effects' of vaccines, I lost all faith in the companies. > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:12 pm, "Liz Purkrabek" <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > I don't remember ever craving hot foods, but my dad's mom craved > > > > > > > Alka-Seltzer during one of her pregnancies. They had to watch her > > > all the > > > > > > > time or she would sneak the stuff. > > > > > > > > liz > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of > > > Jason > > > > > > > (Memphis) > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, January 12, 2009 2:36 PM > > > > > > > To: Memphis Freethought Alliance > > > > > > > Subject: Re: Has the link to autism and mercury in vaccines been > > > debunked? > > > > > > > > eat lots of really hot peppers while you are pregnant. you may > > > > > > > get > > > > > > > sick (increased chances of morning sickness) and possibly damage > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > fetus. those plant toxins and plant irritants aren't actually all > > > > > > > good for you or the fetus...neither is lead, mercury, high levels > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > radiation, etc. there may be a reason why most women naturally > > > avoid > > > > > > > hot spicy food while pregnant. > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 2:11 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > those harmless looking little peppers.... > > > > > > > > > weird though..most chicks I know don't go for the spicy because > > > most of us > > > > > > > > are slightly queasy or just plain sick when we are preggers at > > > > > > > > one > > > point > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > other and spicy isnt on the plate...I mean you don't see many > > > gobbling > > > > > > > > habaneros:) > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 2:04 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Angle? That is an interesting way of looking at it. > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 1:40 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks...never thought of the spicy foods angle. Will > > > > > > > > > > mention > > > it to > > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 1:27 PM, Jason (Memphis) > > > > > > > > > > <[email protected]>wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Nobody knows what causes autism. > > > > > > > > > > > > My advice: > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. She stay away from mercury, lead, high levels of > > > radiation and > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > many psychotropic medications (natural or unnatural) while > > > she is > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant and the child's brain is forming. Flushing a > > > forming > > > > > > > fetus's > > > > > > > > > > > brain with synthetic neurological chemicals and/or > > > unnaturally high > > > > > > > > > > > levels of natural neurological agents is probably not a > > > > > > > > > > > good > > > idea. > > > > > > > > > > > However, I do not want to completely discourage it > > > > > > > > > > > because I > > > get > > > > > > > paid > > > > > > > > > > > good money to work with women who've destroyed or deformed > > > fetus' > > > > > > > > > > > brains by consumption or injection of neurological agents > > > while > > > > > > > > > > > pregnant. Right now, though, my field is swamped. So she > > > might want > > > > > > > > > > > to try NOT to destroy or deform her kid's brain while it's > > > in the > > > > > > > > > > > womb. > > > > > > > > > > > > 2. She also may want to avoid plant toxins (hot spicy > > > foods or > > > > > > > > > > > plants such as hot peppers) that plants have evolved > > > > > > > > > > > (albeit > > > > > > > sometimes > > > > > > > > > > > unsuccessfully) because it deters their consumption by > > > > > > > > > > > some > > > animals. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. Get advice from her pediatrician and/or physician or > > > websites > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > are affiliated with established medical associations such > > > > > > > > > > > as > > > the > > > > > > > > > > > American Medical Association, American Academy of > > > > > > > > > > > Pediatrics > > > and so > > > > > > > > > > > forth. > > > > > > > > > > > > That is my advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > Jason > > > > > > > > > > > > On Jan 12, 12:50 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Ello, > > > > > > > > > > > > > My friend Diane who is pregnant is soaking up the fear > > > sites on > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > net > > > > > > > > > > > > concerning Autism. She is now distrustful of all > > > > > > > > > > > > vaccines > > > > > > > > > specifically > > > > > > > > > > > > anything mercury related. I searched but there is so > > > > > > > > > > > > much > > > out > > > > > > > there > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > > > am lost:) Anyone have specific articles that I can send > > > her? She > > > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > > > > > always been into natural remedies and I am very worried > > > that she > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > > listen > > > > > > > > > > > > to some of the bullshit artists on the net...to a > > > > > > > > > > > > degree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > thanks! > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text - > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > > > > gnothe se auton- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Memphis Freethought Alliance" group. 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