Hi y'all - I wonder if they will prevent same sex chimps from marrying? I am also debating whether I will allow Mrs./Mr. Chimp to vote. Maybe that's how we got Bush!
On Jan 16, 11:31 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > My cover is blown! I guess I can forgo shaving my face and body now. I sure > missed swinging from trees! NO smelly finger jokes! > > > > On Fri, Jan 16, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Clogtowner <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi y'all - I was interested to learn that chimpanzees will become > > legal persons. I can't wait to marry one! > > > On Jan 16, 9:45 am, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > no...but it is what it is - a filed intent to do damage if possible, > > unless > > > I misread the intentions. > > > > I was interestingly vague, but who knows what kind of fracas can be > > > construed out of hot air...happened before. > > > > Okay, I fess up, it was my first visit there and it just pissed me off:) > > > > On Thu, Jan 15, 2009 at 8:49 PM, ornamentalmind < > > [email protected]>wrote: > > > > > CB, without going into depth, did the article discuss details about > > > > "Any > > > > abuses or problems that come to light in WA, will, as in Oregon, be > > > > ignored > > > > by state authorities and go mostly unreported by the media."? I > > > > haven't heard of any here in Oregon and follow it all quite closely. > > > > > On Jan 15, 1:59 pm, CrossBow <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Ok, I had to visit the site but don't worry, I had my barf bucket > > handy. > > > > > So, below are thier major concerns for the year of 2009. How well > > they > > > > show > > > > > thier hand! thanks, we know where to look for trouble:) NO SUN TZU > > for > > > > > them! > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > *A Dark Year for Ethical Bioethics in 2009 > > > > > > By: Wesley J. Smith< > > > >http://www.discovery.org/scripts/viewDB/index.php?command=view&id=13&;.. > > .> > > > > > *The Center for Bioethics and Culture Network > > > > > January 14, 2009 > > > > > > Each year at this time, I predict the coming year's happenings in the > > > > field > > > > > of bioethics. Such prognostications do not require a crystal ball. It > > is > > > > > merely a matter of being informed about current controversies, > > sniffing > > > > the > > > > > air to see which way the wind seems to be blowing, connecting some > > dots, > > > > and > > > > > making educated guesses about how things will turn out. > > > > > > Alas, the bioethical events of 2009 are all too easy to foresee. > > While > > > > the > > > > > recent election results were not determined by bioethical issues - > > the > > > > > economic meltdown swept all other considerations aside - it amounted > > to a > > > > > cultural earthquake nonetheless because the people now in power have > > > > views > > > > > that are inimical to the sanctity and equality of human life. > > > > > > Biotechnology > > > > > > The Bush Embryonic Stem Cell Funding Policy is Toast: Let's start > > with > > > > the > > > > > obvious: One of the first acts of President Obama will be to > > dismantle > > > > the > > > > > Bush ESCR federal funding restrictions. This will allow all embryonic > > > > stem > > > > > cell lines already in existence - and those that will be manufactured > > > > from > > > > > "leftover embryos" during the Obama presidency - to qualify for > > federal > > > > > funding. > > > > > > The Amount of Federal Funding of Human ESCR Will Remain Roughly the > > Same: > > > > > The real gripe "the scientists" had with the former Bush policy was > > not > > > > the > > > > > amount of financial support - the NIH gave about $160 million in > > human > > > > ESCR > > > > > grants during the Bush years. Rather, it was Bush's implied message > > that > > > > it > > > > > is wrong morally to use human embryos as instrumentalities and their > > > > having > > > > > to segregate work on Bush-approved and unapproved cell lines. Those > > > > > "problems" are now kaput, but given the economy and the current > > > > > technological problems in the field, don't look for the amount of > > money > > > > the > > > > > Feds put into ESCR, to rise substantially, if at all, in 2009. > > > > > > New Federal Law Will Explicitly Legalize Therapeutic Cloning: Nearly > > > > > everyone claims to want to outlaw human cloning. But some proposed > > bans > > > > are > > > > > actually phony. This has been the approach taken by Senators Diane > > > > Feinstein > > > > > (D-CA) and Orin Hatch (R-UT), who co-authored a bill to legalize > > human > > > > SCNT > > > > > for research purposes (sometimes called "therapeutic cloning"), but > > > > prohibit > > > > > implantation of the cloned embryo into a womb for the purpose of > > > > initiating > > > > > a pregnancy (sometimes called "reproductive cloning"). Such an > > explicit > > > > > legalization - pretending to be a ban - is likely to pass the Senate > > this > > > > > year, although it might stall in the House. If it gets through > > Congress > > > > it > > > > > is a sure bet to be signed into law by President Obama. > > > > > > The Federal Government Will Not Fund Human Cloning in 2009: > > > > Feinstein/Hatch > > > > > is the necessary precursor to federal funding of human SCNT. While > > that > > > > will > > > > > still be the plan, don't expect the agenda to get that far in 2009. > > > > > > Assisted Suicide > > > > > > There were two big news stories about assisted suicide in 2008 - > > > > Washington > > > > > voters legalized Oregon-style assisted suicide by ballot initiative > > > > > (I-1000), and a Montana trial judge declared a constitutional right > > for > > > > the > > > > > terminally ill to "die with dignity." These events will materially > > impact > > > > > the future of the field. > > > > > > Washington Assisted Suicide Will Quickly Seem Routine: As with > > Oregon, > > > > > Compassion and Choices will facilitate most assisted suicides in > > > > Washington, > > > > > allowing the group substantial control over what the media reports > > about > > > > the > > > > > issue. With most reporters in the tank for the agenda anyway, we will > > > > soon > > > > > be told that assisted suicide is completely under control in > > Washington. > > > > Any > > > > > abuses or problems that come to light in WA, will, as in Oregon, be > > > > ignored > > > > > by state authorities and go mostly unreported by the media. > > > > > > The Montana Supreme Court will Create a Constitutional Right to > > Assisted > > > > > Suicide: Too many judges believe that they, rather than the people or > > > > > legislators, should decide major social controversies. In this > > spirit, > > > > look > > > > > for the Montana Supreme Court to agree with the trial judge that > > there is > > > > a > > > > > state constitutional right to assisted suicide. > > > > > > At Least One State Legislature Will Vote to Legalize Assisted > > Suicide: > > > > Look > > > > > for Hawaii, California, and/or Vermont to legalize assisted suicide > > > > through > > > > > the legislative process. Whether these proposals become law will > > depend > > > > on > > > > > whether the governors of the affected states have the courage to veto > > the > > > > > bills. I predict that at least one governor will sign such a bill, > > > > > establishing another landmark for assisted suicide. That event will > > open > > > > the > > > > > floodgates in 2010. > > > > > > Miscellaneous > > > > > > There are many other issues in bioethics that will make the news > > > > headlines > > > > > in 2009: > > > > > > Abortion: The Freedom of Choice Act (FOCA) - which would erase all > > state > > > > > laws limiting abortion - will be fought tooth and tong by the pro > > life > > > > > movement. It will not pass in 2009. However, abortions will be > > eligible > > > > for > > > > > federal funding by the end of the year. > > > > > > Conscience Clauses: One of the great bioethical battles in the coming > > > > years > > > > > will be whether medical professionals who do not wish to be complicit > > in > > > > > life-ending activities such as abortion or assisted suicide will be > > > > driven > > > > > out of health care. The Bush Administration passed a regulation at > > the > > > > end > > > > > of his term protecting such dissenting health care workers from being > > > > > discriminated against in employment for harkening to the call of > > > > conscience. > > > > > Look for this rule to be overturned by the Obama Administration, or > > > > > overturned by legislation. Thereafter, the drive to exclude health > > care > > > > > professionals who wish to abide by the terms of the Hippocratic Oath > > will > > > > > pick up steam. > > > > > > Human Exceptionalism: Timing is uncertain, but look for the European > > > > Court > > > > > of Human Rights to declare that chimpanzees are legal persons in > > Europe, > > > > > perhaps this year, but almost certainly by the end of 2010. Spain > > will > > > > > formally pass the Great Ape Project making great apes part of the > > > > "community > > > > > of equals" with people. Nepal will follow Ecuador in granting > > "rights" to > > > > > nature. > > > > > > Futile Care: Texas will not rescind its law legalizing medical > > futility > > > > in > > > > > 2009. At least one lawsuit will make the news in which a family > > fights a > > > > > hospital in court to continue wanted life-sustaining treatment that > > the > > > > > hospital wishes to end. > > > > > > Biological Colonialism: Alas, despite legal attempts to restrict the > > > > > exploitation of the world's destitute for their body parts, > > biological > > > > > colonialism (such as buying organs), will increase in 2009. > > > > > > Expect the Unexpected: The field of bioethics is moving so fast and > > > > growing > > > > > so exponentially, that the biggest bioethics story of the year may be > > one > > > > > that hasn't yet appeared on the horizon - as the surprising > > breakthrough > > > > in > > > > > induced pluripotent stem cells (iPSCs) were in 2007. > > > > > > It's going to be a dark year in 2009. 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