On Thu, Oct 30, 2008 at 4:57 AM, Jon Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> Daniel,
> I spent quite a bit of time today hacking through this.  Your notes as
> well as Yehuda's were very useful if for nothing else but to give me
> the courage to hack apart many hundreds of lines of my existing code.
> Its important to know that some of us have early production merb
> apps.  Mine is one and about half my code base contains session, auth,
> flash, and other such stuff that didn't have such full solutions in
> earlier merb.  As a result, just dropping in merb-auth isn't so easy
> as it required many changes.  But so far so good.  I have more testing
> to do and probably a few hacks.   After that I can give a meaningful
> report and howto for other migrators.
>
> thanks again, Jon
>

Hey Jon,

Good news.  If you want to overwrite the flash behavior of the
merb-auth-slice-password you should rake the stubs

rake -T | grep stub (to find the actual rake task)

This will put the parts of the controller into the
slices/merb-auth-slice-password/app/controllers/sessions.rb file that you
should overwrite.

Good luck... Looking forward to seeing your report.

Cheers
Daniel

>
>
> On Oct 29, 6:24 am, "Daniel N" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Wed, Oct 29, 2008 at 5:28 AM, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > After just a few minutes looking through, it looks like the salted user
> > > gets added in merb/merb-auth/setup.rb in the generated app. You can
> just
> > > comment out lines 17 and 18 to remove the functionality (it's not
> actually
> > > in the slice or merb-auth at all).
> > > All you need to do is implement an authenticate method on your
> user_class
> > > (which is defined via Merb::Authentication.user_class = Whatever,
> defaults
> > > to User in setup.rb) and the slice will do all the work for you.
> >
> > > How's that for some granular opt-out :P
> >
> > > -- Yehuda
> >
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > There are very little assumptions made about your user model in the slice
> at
> > all.  You can tell the slice to completely not even load any
> Authentication
> > strategies at all and completely define your own.  Effectively the slice
> > only implements a login and logout action for you.  When you want to
> > customize the login form.  Put it at
> >
> > app/views/exceptions/unauthenticated.html.erb
> >
> > Whenever you fail to login, and Unauthenticated exception is raised this
> > mehtod is called, and it's template rendered.  Just replace it.  It's not
> > actually part of the slice, the slice just happens to provide a default
> one.
> >
> > As Yehuda pointed out the configuration for your application happens in
> >
> > Merb.root/merb/merb-auth/*
> >
> > Where setup.rb has the configuration for which user model to use in the
> > default strategies, session serialization, the salted user mixin.  These
> > things are included in the generated application so that you can easily
> see
> > what is being done to your models and your app.  What assumptions are
> being
> > made and you can add, modify or remove as needed.
> >
> > The Strategies are listed in the strategeis.rb file of the generated app.
> > You can see that there is an option there to tell the slice not to load
> it's
> > default strategies (the only "configuration" option) and then it
> activates a
> > couple of default strategies for you app that most ppl would use.  Again,
> > they're part of the generated app so that you can add, modify or comment
> > them out.
> >
> > To make use of the default strategies you should have your user model
> > provide a class level "authenticate(name, key)" style method that returns
> > nil if not authenticated, or the user object if it does.  This is _only_
> a
> > _requirement_ of the default strategies.  Your own strategies need no
> such
> > requiements and you're free to implement them as you wish.  You don't
> need
> > to use Merb::Authntication.user_class  at all, and neither do you need to
> > impose any of merb-auths "default" requirmenets on it if you choose not
> to.
> >
> > I hope this clears it up a bit.  I know documentation is a bit sparce on
> the
> > ground at the moment and I appologize.  I'll get some up as soon as I can
> > but it won't be for a little while yet.
> >
> > Please let me know if you need any more info or discussion on how to
> opt-out
> > / setup merb-auth.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Daniel
> >
> >
> >
> > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:10 AM, Yehuda Katz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >> Absolutely,
> > >> I think this might be mostly a doc issue, but also a limitation of the
> > >> slice issue. I'm going to spend some time looking at it today.
> >
> > >> Incidentally, are you on AIM, GTalk, or IRC? I'd love to chat.
> >
> > >> -- Yehuda
> >
> > >> On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 11:07 AM, Jon Hancock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >wrote:
> >
> > >>> ok, I may be able to hack at the slice and make it more configurable.
> > >>> I would like to avoid having a whole slew of slices to chose from.  I
> > >>> think if this is factored well with the right options, you can have
> > >>> both "opinionated" and "fully configurable" in the same slice.
> > >>> thanks, Jon
> >
> > >>> On Oct 29, 1:45 am, "Ahsan Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > Right .. I believe that hassox's (merb-auth author) intention was
> > >>> initially
> > >>> > to provide an example implementation of -core and -more in
> > >>> > -auth-password-slice. So ... lookup the auth-password-slice source,
> and
> > >>> if
> > >>> > you think there's a better way to do it - do it ! (and share it
> with us
> > >>> :D)
> >
> > >>> > Regards, highandwild
> >
> > >>> > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Jon Hancock <
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > ok, I'll try this.  However, with a little more refactoring, I'm
> > >>> > > guessing the slice approach would work if you can turn off or
> more
> > >>> > > fully tune the "opinionated" stuff.
> >
> > >>> > > thanks, Jon
> >
> > >>> > > On Oct 29, 1:27 am, "Ahsan Ali" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>> > > > Simply, don't use merb-auth-password-slice. Refer the READMEs
> > >>> inside
> > >>> > > > merb-auth-core and -more directories to implement your own
> stuff.
> > >>> > > -auth-more
> > >>> > > > and -auth-password-slice are optional.
> >
> > >>> > > > - highandwild
> >
> > >>> > > > On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Jon Hancock <
> > >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >>> > > wrote:
> >
> > >>> > > > > I have studied the latest 0.9.10 merb-auth, merb-auth-core,
> > >>> merb-auth-
> > >>> > > > > more, and merb-auth-password-slice.
> >
> > >>> > > > > I'm still confused as to how to get this to work for me.
> >
> > >>> > > > > The docs tell me that this new auth structure only
> authenticates
> > >>> > > > > sessions and has not preference to how I write the auth
> logic.
> > >>> > > > > However, the auth-password-slice goes forward and adds salt
> and
> > >>> > > > > crypt_password fields to my User model.  Its even so
> presumptuous
> > >>> as
> > >>> > > > > to see that I have datamapper running and use the dm form of
> > >>> injecting
> > >>> > > > > properties.  I absolutely do not want this kind of magic
> going on
> > >>> in
> > >>> > > > > my app.
> >
> > >>> > > > > So the first question is:
> >
> > >>> > > > > 1 - How do I get the slice to keep its hands off my User
> model?
> > >>>  What
> > >>> > > > > I want is a simple list of methods that my User should
> implement
> > >>> and I
> > >>> > > > > will implement those.  The docs indicate that this is what I
> > >>> should be
> > >>> > > > > able to do, but the real world default behavior is different.
> >
> > >>> > > > > 2 - How do I tell this auth framework which erb file I want
> to
> > >>> use for
> > >>> > > > > my login form?  The slice has its own forms.  I do not want
> to
> > >>> pass
> > >>> > > > > lots of config directives to get the form to look almost
> correct.
> > >>>  I
> > >>> > > > > want to completely replace the form and I want to do so
> without
> > >>> > > > > monkeypatching the slice.  How do I do this?
> >
> > >>> > > > > thanks, Jon
> >
> > >> --
> > >> Yehuda Katz
> > >> Developer | Engine Yard
> > >> (ph) 718.877.1325
> >
> > > --
> > > Yehuda Katz
> > > Developer | Engine Yard
> > > (ph) 718.877.1325
> >
>

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