As I said in my other post I'm not talking about welfare at all, I'm talking about child tax credits, public schools, after school programs, lunch programs, playgrounds and so on.
But overall Gary's right, given the choice I'd prefer to pay for kids than killing.... -Curt --- On Thu, 9/4/08, Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: Bill R <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: RE: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP - public assistance To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "'Mercedes Discussion List'" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 5:02 PM Curt - there is some of that and it irritates all of us. I have not seen the statistics for a few years, but the AVERAGE recipient of welfare is on for less than a year. What about a woman with kids who is deserted by her spouse? The income possibilities for many of them is not enough to pay for child care. Here in Jacksonville they can get onto the waiting list for publically funded childcare, but they have to be employed fuLL time for two years to get on the list. Or the working spouse becomes ill [#1 cause of bankruptcy in the US, I think] and they lose their home and source of income and health insurance? When you look at the leakers all of us want to get rid of them [my wife used to offer a job to every young male applicant on welfare - and pretty soon her applicant rate was cut by a large percentage [that was 30 year ago, so I don't' remember how much]. The problem is always the leakers who work the system. Do we further hurt the ones who really can't help where they are and want to get out, or have a system with some loopholes worked by the fakers? It isn't a perfect system by any means. It would take a lot more than any of us want to pay to make it very much better. BillR -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Curt Raymond Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 10:31 AM To: Mercedes Discussion List; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP But if people want kids so bad shouldn't they be able to afford it first? If I don't want kids why can't everybody else subsidize my dog? I've got to pay for the brats in the neighbor hood to go to school so they can grow up to be drug dealers and prostitutes why can't I get paid for Buster to go to doggie daycare? We've got this little problem of worldwide overpopulation which is pushing up the price for everything, how does it make any sense to subsidize an increase in that problem? --- On Thu, 9/4/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT the Hottest VP To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Mercedes Discussion List" <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, September 4, 2008, 10:14 AM -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Breeders rights = subsidies for people who have kids like child tax credits. Why > should I pay for others to have kids? > Did your parents receive those same tax credits for you? I'm betting they did. Our society for many years has understood that raising children is expensive and it is a good and moral thing to subsidize those expenses. If you disagree, you should work in the system to change it. Pete _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
