It is more the trade in issue. Number of guys BiL works with have tried to trade in 2005/2003 trucks for a new diesel and dealer will not take them. Prices for the current trucks is great, but nobody can get rid of his old one at a decent price to purchase.

clay

On Nov 28, 2008, at 1:57 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin wrote:

where did you get the idea there is not a market for diesel trucks? Maybe not with the dime store cowbow type, but the people who really need them for work, no gas truck will get the job done like a diesel one will. Around here, diesel trucks are still selling better than cars.

Redghost wrote:
Thanksgiving dinner table talk turned to trucks and BiL needing one, the issues, and prices v. consumer report scores. Seems that there is NO market for diesel trucks. Price of fuel is too high and dealers are no longer accepting them on trade since there is a glut of inventory. Prices of the trucks will be dropping to bargain pricing in a few weeks, more if congress delays the bail out.
clay
On Nov 28, 2008, at 12:01 PM, R A Bennell wrote:
If I were you, I would look at some full sized trucks too. Pretty good deals on them right now and I think in most cases, the mileage difference is going to be minimal. Most of these smaller trucks are not all that great on gas. A bit more room in the cab is nice too. Even the crew cabs have a reasonable box. I have a F150 Supercrew and rarely have problems hauling even though the box is only about 5 1/2 feet. An 8 foot sheet of plywood is about to the end
of the tailgate.

Randy


I think the one we drove today was 4.0l, it'd spin the tires like crazy if I hammered it and dumped the clutch. Interestingly neither the Dakota nor the Colorado would spin the tires even when I TRIED to make them. Neither
claimed to have traction control or a limited slip.

Of the 3 the Ford shifted into and out of 4wd the fastest too.

According to fueleconomy.gov the Ford and Dodge are about the same for mileage while the Colorado is better. Its interesting because the Ford is by far the smallest but of course the 4.0l is the largest of the 3 engines but produces the least HP at 207 vs 210 for the 3.7 in the Dakota and 220hp for the 3.5 in the Colorado. I do think the Ranger makes its power lower in the band than the other two and the 5spd lets you work with it better.

Wiki shows that today's Ranger is a very different truck than the one I drove in '94 and it shows, I think its a
much more pleasant ride.

-Curt


Curt Raymond wrote:
We've got another dealership to hit tomorrow but so far I'm super
surprised to see the Ranger out in front. I'm thinking to go back and try an up model Ranger, although I like the 5spd its a 2 door and I'd
like the 4 for the dog... I think the problem is my highschool
girlfriend (who messed my mind up) had a Ranger and I've never
forgiven Ford for that ;)

You might have driven a base model with the 3.0L or 4.0L V6. The 2.5 is probably pretty gutless. I'd try and drive one with the 4.0L... Supposedly
they get about the same mileage.

Can't help ya on the girlfriend thing ;)

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