I see that many on this thread are arguing from ideology rather than data. Perhaps the most important fact is that under the U.S. system millions of people have no coverage at all.
And an estimated 18,000 per year join the choir celestial due to lack of access to health care. And this does not even include "deaths by denial" inflicted by insurance companies. This all despite the fact that the U.S. pays twice as much per capita for healthcare as any other country. Twice as much, PER CAPITA, and millions of people have no coverage. So in millions of cases, we are paying twice as much for nothing at all. harry watkins wrote: > The medical system we have allows for constant improvements that lead to > longer life, I think statistics will attest to that. Putting it under > government control will stifle the progress we expect. > > It seems that the USA is the place to go for the best medical care in > the world and people from all over the world show up here when they can > afford the best. > > Every time we open the gates, people come in, very few go out. > > I've been around for a long time, I've lived in large and small cities > and towns. I have never heard or seen of one of these terrible > situations where someone suffers because treatment was refused in areas > where I've been, have you? > > Anyone on this list that knows of those things happening, I wish you > would share the stories with us. > > Harry > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Cathey" <j...@windwireless.net> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Saturday, December 13, 2008 12:08 AM > Subject: [MBZ] Socialism > > >>> Yes but a Government is charged with looking after ALL it's citizens. >> >> Plenty of use think that it is, in fact, not. >> >>> At the start of the movie Moore showed a bloke putting stitches in >>> his knee because he has no health insurance, are you saying that he >>> would have gotten treated at the local hospital for free? >> >> As I understand it, yes. >> >>> I do believe there is a system in place called unemployment benefits >>> which enable those with no means to buy food, although if they do or >>> not is questionable. >> >> Those are State-run, not Federal, and such benefits are limited >> to those who have been employed. Also, they run out, and there >> are often strings attached. All as it should be, IMHO. >> >> I don't believe in funding charity at the point of a gun, which >> is what any State-run program is. >> >> Our system is badly broken, but I haven't seen any other system >> that I believe is fundamentally better, all things considered. >> I think that what we just signed up for, a Health Savings Account >> in conjunction with a high deductible, is one of the better ideas >> I've heard about. >> >> What we _need_, is a health care system that encourages competition, >> and thus the application of everybody's brain, rather than some hidden >> somebody-else-pays-except-that-it's-really-me-if-you-dig-deep-enough >> kind of system. >> >> -- Jim >> >> >> >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > -- Lee If you would be unloved and forgotten, be reasonable. - Kurt Vonnegut _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
