Frybrid is in this for profit. Please show me independent and
repeatable research that shows where VO (WVO or SVO) will not cause long
term damage to an engine. In 5 years of being around WVO/biodiesel, no
one has shown me this research. VO must be heated over 350F to make the
viscosity similar to diesel.
A quote from the Frybrid website:
"
The simplest way to explain this is with a simple analogy: Imagine
placing a pan on the stove, pouring a small amount of vegetable oil in
the pan, and turning the heat to high. The pan will begin to heat up and
as it does it will heat the oil, around 300F the oil will start to
smoke, then turn black, stick to the pan, and destroy it. Now put out
the fire, open all the doors and windows and allow the air to clear.*
"
*
BUZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTT, WRONG! Fries are cooked in oil at temps around 350F!
"
On a typical day at McDonald's, oil temperature in the fryer averages
about 340 degrees F. So when a cook grabs strips of icy potatoes out of
the freezer and tosses them into hot oil, water in the potatoes
immediately begins to evaporate. Bubbles and steam emerge, creating an
enormous cycle of heat transfer between the oil and the potato. The
process, Farkas says, may be the most important factor in producing the
texture of the final fried product.
"
from http://ucdavismagazine.ucdavis.edu/issues/su01/feature_2.html
or
"
Cooking time in 360 degree F Oil
"
from http://www.mvproduce.com/ffries.html
And for the smoke points of different oils:
"
1. Wikipedia <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_point> lists the
smoke points of some popular oils as:
* Canola oil (Refined): 468 degrees Fahrenheit (242 degrees
Celsius)
* Corn oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees
Celsius)
* Grapeseed oil: 420 degrees Fahrenheit (216 degrees Celsius)
* Lard: 370 degrees Fahrenheit (182 degrees Celsius)
* Peanut oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees
Celsius)
* Safflower oil (Refined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232 degrees
Celsius)
* Sunflower oil (Semirefined): 450 degrees Fahrenheit (232
degrees Celsius)
* Vegetable shortening: 360 degrees Fahrenheit (182 degrees
Celsius)
o These smoke points are not set in stone, as much
depends on the oil brand and refinement process
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_oil>. A general
rule is that lighter, more refined oils have higher
smoke points <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cooking_oil>.
"
from http://www.mahalo.com/How_to_Deep_Fry_Anything
Given that Frybrid blatantly lies about the smoke point of VO, what else
in their "bibliography of research papers" is stretching the truth or a
blatant lie? Oh yes, the wonders of the internet, where you can say
anything you want and find P.T. Barnum suckers all day long.....
Luther, still not sold on vegetable oil as a diesel fuel substitute
Michael E. Esh wrote:
Here is the site of the system I am currently using to burn waste vegetable
oil. (WVO) I simple filter the oil using a small centrifuge. I do not
process it into bio diesel. What I am doing is very safe. This site
explains the process very clearly.
http://www.frybrid.com/svo.htm
Thanks,
mike
-----Original Message-----
From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
[mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]on Behalf Of Luther
Sent: Saturday, May 09, 2009 1:01 AM
To: Mercedes Discussion List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] Doing SVO Wrong
Please provide the link to the study you read.
Luther
Tyler wrote:
These sort of engine problems are essentially unheard of in MB diesels
that haven't run WVO.
I still stand by the claim that WVO is good, but only if the oil is
heated really hot, and filtered really well (and it almost never is).
I did read a well designed scientific study once which showed no
measurable long term wear increase using well heated WVO compared to
regular diesel, but cold WVO caused serious engine damage in a short
time period. I suppose people will want a link... I'll see if I can
find it.
Sincerely,
Tyler
On May 8, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Michael LaFleur wrote:
Why is it that every benz that has an engine problem that was run on
WVO, WVO is blamedas the reason for the failure, but every other benz
that has an engine problem, diesel is not the blame?
Mike
--
Luther KB5QHU Alma, Ark
'87 300SDL (281,xxx mi)
'85 Ford F250 6.9 diesel (x59,xxx mi) BioBeast
'82 300CD (183 kmi)
'82 300D (74 kmi) getting donor engine-sold
'85 300D (280,176) parts car sans engine "The Accordion"
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