Gun registry in Canada was a silly waste of money. We have essentially had a 
ban on handguns forever. The registry
was for long guns - 22's, shotguns etc. The creeps on the street are carrying 
illegal hand guns. The huge money
spent on the registry was just another government boondoggle. An attempt to 
show that the government of the day was
"doing something about crime". The police support it of course and the soccor 
mommies and the folks in places like
Toronto who don't see why anyone needs to own a gun. Ask the farmer in Manitoba 
or Saskatchewan who goes out into
the fields to check on his cattle why he takes a gun with him. Truly amazing 
how times have changed in my lifetime.
When I was a younger fellow living out in the rural area folks kept long guns 
in those bracket doodads in the back
windows of pick up trucks - visible to all. Go to the post office to pick up 
the mail and leave the truck idling in
the lot with the guns in the brackets - no one thought anything of it. Either 
that or stuffed under the seat. That
was in the 60's and early 70's.  God, if you did that now, a SWAT team would 
shoot you first and then tell the
media they were "forced" to do so because you were seen in public with a gun 
and they had to take you down before
you hurt someone.

Randy

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 7:56 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg


What I saw on that website reads more like a warzone city like Detroit or east 
LA... Not just "any big American
city", thats scary. I'd be interested to see Canadian crime stats since the gun 
ban really went into force. I've my
doubts that banning guns really does anything to reduce crime but I'd like to 
see some real no spin statistics even
if they didn't support my opinion. The problem is I don't think such statistics 
really exist.

-Curt

Date: Tue, 14 Jul 2009 16:37:00 -0500
From: "R A Bennell" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <[email protected]>
Message-ID: <[email protected]>
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Yeah, we are as bad as the big US cities when it comes to crime. And, of 
course, we don't get to have guns unless
we are hoodlums and have them illegally.
Getting worse here daily. Gangs of young hoodlums roam the streets shooting and 
knifing people for fun. Winnipeg
used to be a pretty safe place but it is getting to be a situation where one 
does not go to certain parts of town
anymore. Our justice system does not do much to deter them either. Just take 
along your "get out of jail free card"
and do what you want.

Randy


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]]on Behalf Of Curt Raymond
Sent: Tuesday, July 14, 2009 2:48 PM
To: Diesel List
Subject: [MBZ] OT: Winnipeg


Geez Randy reading through the front page of the link you provided makes 
Winnipeg seem like a war zone! Theres
sexual assult, screens to protect bus drivers, carjacking, murder, kidnapping, 
it all sounds very scary. Makes you
want to move someplace safe like east LA... ;)

-Curt

Note: Sarcasm... I'm sure its all media fear mongering but it does make you 
think, if Canada is supposed to be such
a safe place unlike the land of gun toting wackos (of which I'm one) to the 
south.



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