Dickarde definitely was running the veterans list before the "Diesel"
list was started. Hursty, you have given me the timeline I was
missing or unsure about.
So Hursty, I propose changing your statement a little. This list
would not have existed without Alex Gabbard, and Herr Doktor and the
Diesel list would not have started without Dr. Booth.
You might want to add: You would have been money ahead without
meeting dickarde.
Most of the charter members of the Okiebenz list were members of the
Diesel list. After dickarde was successful in starting the Diesel
list, it siphoned off members like me and OK Don, who was then known
by his real name, from the veterans list. THe 108 list siphoned off
more members of the veterans list. each subsequent list siphoned off
members from the veterans list.
After dickarde smoked a few too many and melted down, Kaleb picked up
the pieces he found, and put together one list, much like the
original veterans list, but without most of the international
members. (Yes, we have Bennell, whom I appreciate even if he is a
lawyer and one errant lost Aussie, but the Veterans had a whole raft
of Aussies, including Greene, who was no slouch on technical stuff,
and Frada, who was a hoot) Then there were Gabbard and others from
Europe, an occasional Indonesian and a few South Africans, so it gave
us a perspective of "Air, Land and Sea, the world around"
I still miss the veterans list, but I consider the character of this
list to be essentially the same as the original Mascedes-veterans list.
Thanks Kaleb, for running a fun list!
At 03:20 PM 8/13/2009, you wrote:
i'd guess 98 or 99, but someone like little tommy would remember such a
thing.
to sum it up briefly as i understand it: in the beginning, there was dave
realtime and esa ahola. figure about 95ish. a dominant figure on the list
was cookies and he really pissed off a ton of people everyday. ritter and
easley then started their own list to be "kinder and gentler" and cookies
free, maybe about 96 or 97. one stuart steele was doing the "listmom" thing
for ritter/easley and he and ritter undertook basically what amounted to
purges of all dissidents. the mbz.org lists began as a reaction to those
purges, beginning with "banned" as a safe haven for mercedesphiles who had
been purged from ritter/easley. as ritter/easley purported to be kinder and
gentler, banned went out of its way to be exactly the opposite so while it
did contain tech information, it was not a fit forum for many who wished to
participate in an alternative tech list. so richard sexton and i decided
that if dr booth as willing to participate in the proposed diesel list, we'd
run out a bunch of more democratic and open lists via mbz.org
then richard and mbz.org had one final nuclear meltdown and lists
disappeared, but kaleb took the initiative and stepped up to keep them alive
(originally while richard brought the lists back up, but now permanently)
and that is where we are today.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Peter Merle <merle.pe...@gmail.com> wrote:
> When did the list actually start? I have been on /off over many years .
> Marshall always helped out and made sense of many things than perflexed one
> Peter
>
> 2009/8/13 Rich Thomas <richthomas79td...@constructivity.net>
>
> > But we have you now.
> >
> > --R
> >
> > Gary Hurst wrote:
> >
> >> marshall is historically the only reason this list exists. the whole
> >> mbz.org list system (apart from banned) was contingent upon marshall's
> >> agreed participation. had marhall said "no", the plan was to never
> start
> >> the diesel list.
> >>
> >> just a bit of old school trivia for those of you who might still care
> >>
> >> =
> >>
> >
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