My uncle, who is generally an encyclopedia when it comes to most of the experiences in his life, has told me about this place. He lived in the village in the early 60s and has all sorts of bizarre stories from the perspective of a struggling jazz musician. He has spoke of the "light and dark, or any mixture of the two" beer frequently. I guess I'll have to take him there so he can share more of his vivid memory.
Jaime On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:37 PM, Gary Hurst <jabbahur...@gmail.com> wrote: > from the wikipedia > > Women were not allowed until 1970 when National Organization for > Women<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Organization_for_Women > >attorneys > Faith Seidenberg and Karen DeCrow took their case to District > Court and won (*Seidenberg v. McSorleys' Old Ale House*). It did so > "kicking > and screaming." > [3]< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McSorley%27s_Old_Ale_House#cite_note-Blasts_from_the_Past-2 > > > > McSorley's serves only two ales, light and dark - $4.50 for two (2009 > pricing, each glass is a half pint). The aged artwork, newspaper articles > covering the walls, the sawdust floors, and the Irish waiters and > bartenders > help give McSorley's Old Ale House an atmosphere that many consider, > correctly or not, reminiscent of "Olde New York." No piece of memorabilia > has been removed from the walls since 1910. After the New York > Rangers<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_Rangers>won the Stanley > Cup <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Cup> in 1994, they took the cup > to > McSorley's and drank out of it; the resulting dent caused the NHL to take > the trophy back for several days.[*citation > needed<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Citation_needed> > *] > > Famous people have imbibed at McSorley's, including Abraham > Lincoln<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abraham_Lincoln>, > Teddy Roosevelt <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Teddy_Roosevelt>, Boss > Tweed<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Tweed>, > and Woody Guthrie <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Guthrie>. Literary > figures like Brendan Behan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brendan_Behan>, > Paul > Blackburn <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Blackburn>, LeRoi > Jones<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LeRoi_Jones>, > Gilbert Sorrentino <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Sorrentino>, > George > Jean Nathan <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Jean_Nathan> have been > cited as regulars. > > In his 1923 poem "I was sitting in mcsorley's," poet E. E. > Cummings<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E._E._Cummings>described > McSorley's as "the ale which never lets you grow old." He also > described it as he describes the bar as “snug and > evil.”[3]< > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McSorley%27s_Old_Ale_House#cite_note-Blasts_from_the_Past-2 > > > [4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McSorley%27s_Old_Ale_House#cite_note-3> > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 5:13 PM, Greg Fiorentino <gf...@dslnorthwest.net > >wrote: > > > I used to go to McSorley's in the mid 60's. My brother (later my brother > > in > > law also) attended The Cooper Union nearby. I used to join in their > > "McSorley's Day" celebrations. No women were there at the time. They > > served only ale and porter, which I suppose were what we now call > > "microbrew". It was good stuff. IIRC they were priced at 2 rather large > > mugs for whatever reasonable amount The waiters brought them to the > tables > > by grasping all the mug handles with fingers, and I recall that they must > > have had to have enormous hands to carry so many at once. The > > ancient-looking urinals were the size of upended bathtubs. The customers > > all seemed to be locals and students rather than tourists. > > > > I suppose success can spoil. > > > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 1:52 PM > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling > > > > i found mcsorley vastly overrated and most for the tourists. i believe > > women were banned until a very late date, or so went the legend. > > > > yes, and i am corrected. it was brownsville that was home of tyson. > > > > On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 1:38 PM, Greg Fiorentino > > <gf...@dslnorthwest.net>wrote: > > > > > I believe Tyson's neighborhood was Bed Sty, Brownsville and maybe East > > New > > > York (where I spent my childhood), but not Bushwick. > > > > > > Those old-style Brooklyn beers sure were awful. The only old-style New > > > York > > > beers that were any good were the Ale or Porter that were served at the > > old > > > McSorley's! Their sandwiches were great too. > > > > > > Greg > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com [mailto: > > mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] > > > On Behalf Of Gary Hurst > > > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 2:43 AM > > > To: Mercedes Discussion List > > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] beer question -- yuengling > > > > > > yeah, i grew up in NYC, where neither Yuengling nor Genessee was > welcome. > > > bars where dominated by the traditional brooklyn beers from mike > tyson's > > > old > > > neighborhood, bushwick. rheingold. shaeffer. piels. i'm sure many > of > > > these names exist today, albeit just as brand names as those breweries > > have > > > been gone pretty much forever. one philadelphia brand, schmidt's, also > > had > > > a huge presence in the neighborhood bars in new york city. > additionally, > > > they'd also have big national bud and miller products on tap. there > > > usually > > > wasn't a lot of variety, say 2 or 3 beers on tap, like maybe schmidt's > > and > > > bud. mostly just neighborhood losers sat around there after work and > > they > > > weren't that picky as to variety. > > > > > > the place in my neighborhood was the 3 o's (like as in o'malley, > o'brien > > > and > > > o'rourke or something similar). my dad hated that place as he was > > strictly > > > anti alchohol so i had be really careful going in and out of that place > > > (wuz > > > dat you zon going from ze 3 o last night?). i didn't much care for hte > > > company but they had a satellite and early projection tv and cheap > crappy > > > beer, so it was hard not to look both ways and wander through that > door. > > i > > > later learned that my dad used to eat regularly at a blarney stone bar > in > > > manhattan (never drank though. they would have like a little corned > beef > > > and cabbage buffet at lunch and it was really good) but this did not in > > his > > > eyes bolster the argument for my being allowed to go to the o's. > > > > > > the funny thing in respect to today's world is that i was about 14 when > i > > > started going to the bar. the issue was not underage drinking as i had > a > > > job, which made me a working man, which qualified me to have some > beers. > > > no > > > one had any issues with my fundamental right to consume alcohol, but > > rather > > > with the sorts of people you associated with at local establishments > that > > > served alcohol. > > > > > > of course, once you got out of the neighborhood bars and into the more > > > fancy > > > cosmopolitan bars you could get any damn thing you liked and we mostly > > > liked > > > english beers in those places. then we saw the deer hunter and had to > > > drink > > > rolling rock for 2 years, but that is a whole different brand of > > psychosis. > > > > > > what moved me about the yuengling though was that it still tastes like > an > > > old time beer, which i'm pretty sure few of the other brands out there > > can > > > claim. i know that my old brand, ballantine's out of newark, nj, > hasn't > > > tasted like anything in decades. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 9, 2009 at 8:03 PM, Dwight E. Giles, Jr <degco...@cox.net > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Gary. > > > > I usually rant or delete OT posts-but you have hit on a subject dear > > to > > > my > > > > heart (& palate). I grew up in Yuengling country and when I go back > to > > > > visit my in-laws or they come to visit me-I get a case or two. It is > > > still > > > > made at the original brewery n Pottsville, PA-but they also opened a > > > > brewery > > > > in FL-which explains why you see it there. I can get a draft of it in > > > > airports In NC but can't buy it at all here in RI-6 hours away from > the > > > > Brewery. > > > > > > > > As I write this, I have a case of their traditional lager sitting in > my > > > > shed. My favorite is their Lord Chesterfield Ale and their porter. > If > > > you > > > > ever get near Pottsville, Pa go visit the brewery-it's a trip back in > > > time. > > > > http://www.yuengling.com/index.htm > > > > > > > > Oh yes MB content-I hauled the lager back from PA at Thanksgiving in > my > > > > 300D > > > > 2.5t which got almost 33 mpg with cleaned out turbo. > > > > > > > > Didn't you grow up in NYC? > > > > Dwight > > > > > > > > Bissell Cove Quahog & Auto Salvage Co > > > > Dwight E. Giles, Jr. > > > > Wickford RI 02852 > > > > > > > > when i was a kid, yuengling was a strong regional beer. if you > > happened > > > to > > > > be in certain areas, the beer at any bar was yuengling just as in > > certain > > > > areas the beer was genesee. there were sure signs you were "out of > the > > > > city" and someplace completely else. > > > > > > > > lately, everywhere i go i see yuengling, like it has exploded in > > > > distribution. it kinda tastes like what i would expect, so it isn't > > just > > > > relabeled bud light. anyone know what's going on here? > > > > > > > > -- > > > > save 5% on our already low, low prices. use coupon code DAVE at > > > checkout. > > > > www. 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