Thanks Ned!

Any other insights regarding measurement or timing chain replacement for
your car?

Very respectfully,
/s/
Max Dillon
'87 300TD 320k miles
'95 E300 274k miles (project)
'73 Balboa 20
Charleston SC


 

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Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM606 Timing Chain Wear Measure

Max:
I'm still here.  But too busy to keep up with the list every day.
So I apologize for this late response.

Of course you have my permission to use the information.

Ned Kleinhenz

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<< For posterity, using Ned's method, I got very similar results
(between 2 << and 3 degrees of wear).

<< -Max

<< -----Original Message-----
<< From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
<< [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com] On Behalf Of Max Dillon <<
Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:55 PM << To: 'Mercedes Discussion
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<< Subject: Re: [MBZ] OM606 Timing Chain Wear Measure

<< Answering my own post here.  Searched the archives and found an
exchange << between Ned Kleinhenz and Marshall Booth, here's the key
part below.

<< Ned if you're still on this list, I'd like permission to also post
this << great tidbit on the MBCA forum and credit to your name.

<< -Max

<< ------------------------------
<< --------------------

<< Glad I took Marshall's advice and replicated the chain stretch <<
measurement on my '95 E300D with the OM 606.910 engine.  My first <<
measurement on Saturday was 4 deg.
<< The subsequent measurements, today, were 3 deg, 2 deg and 2.5 deg.
<< Think I'll keep this chain and check it again in 30 or 50k miles.

<< I discovered an important trick that other 606 engine owners may want
to << know - The cam can be indexed for #1 piston TDC by running a pin
through << holes that align the left cam gear and the front cam tower.
One of the << bolts that holds the cam cover on the head is the perfect
size to use as << this pin.
<< This bolt will fit tightly enough that I estimate the bolt will only
fit << through both holes within < 1/2 deg of crank rotation.

<< When looking at the engine from the front of the car, correct crank
<< rotation is clockwise.  To measure chain stretch, you must approach
the << index postion only from the clockwise direction.  Backing the
crank off << a fraction of a degee reverses the play in the chain and
makes the << measurement meaningless.

<< Ned Kleinhenz
<< '95 E300D x2
<< '85 300D
<< '80 300TD

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<< -----Original Message-----
<< From: mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com
<< [mailto:mercedes-boun...@okiebenz.com]
<< On Behalf Of Max Dillon
<< Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 4:37 PM << To: mercedes@okiebenz.com
<< Subject: [MBZ] OM606 Timing Chain Wear Measure

<< Dieselvolk,

<< I'm trying to measure the timing chain wear on my '95 E300 (OM606).
I << cannot for the life of me find any marks on the camshaft at the #1
<< bearing tower.  I've made this check on OM617 and OM603 engines, so I
<< know what I'm looking for, but this OM606 has got me stumped.

<< Anyone know the trick?

<< There is a set of marks on the third cam bearing tower and the
primary << camshaft (two camshafts on this engine, remember), but they
are not << easily aligned for a precise measurement.  When I line them
up, it looks << like timing chain wear is about 4 degrees.  There's also
a hole in the << gear on the second camshaft, and that hole can be
aligned with a hole in << the #1 cam bearing tower.  When I line that
up, I measure about 10 << degrees of wear!

<< Very respectfully,
<< /s/
<< Max Dillon
<< Charleston SC
<< '87 300TD 320k miles
<< '95 E300 274k miles "project"
<< '73 Balboa 20
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