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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Allan Streib" <str...@cs.indiana.edu> 
To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
Sent: Wednesday, December 1, 2010 1:25:10 PM 
Subject: Re: [MBZ] (SPAM?) Re: $3.99 Mobil One 

The reason I ask is that there are a lot of hints (certainly no denials from 
Mobil) that M1 is no longer the same "true" (Group IV) synthetic base that it 
used to be. If that's the case, why not buy Valvoline (or any other Group III 
synthetic) at half the price?? 

Allan 


On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 08:58 -0800, "Alex Chamberlain" <apchamberl...@gmail.com> 
wrote: 
> On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 4:18 AM, Allan Streib <str...@cs.indiana.edu> 
> wrote: 
> > So anyone know anything about the Valvoline "super blue" synthetic 
> > diesel-rated 5W-40? 
> 
> Marshall (RIP) always said that the Valvoline synthetics were not 
> "true" synthetics and thus not worth the premium over dinosaur juice. 
> I'm not sure which of their several products he was referring to, 
> though. FWIW (not much), I used to have an Audi 4000CS Quattro. 
> Bought it at 180K mi or so from the original owner, who said he'd used 
> Valvoline synthetic in the silver bottle since day 1. Since the car 
> seemed happy with it, I kept it up. I took off the valve cover a few 
> years later to change the gasket, and was struck by the fact that the 
> cam lobes were clean enough to eat off of---absolutely no visible 
> evidence of wear. 
> 
> Alex 
> 
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