well, i've never lost a gun before, so i really wasn't sure what the
standard procedure is.  it wasn't loaded so some kid would have trouble
shooting someone with it.  it has no magazine either.  granted, all of that
could be simply remedied but it would make it less likely that some kid
would kill someone with it.  more likely, i'd think, it was sold to
criminals on the cheap if it was taken.

these weapons are relatively easy to acquire in the state of georgia.
anyone can go to any gun show and buy one.  I bought mine in a parking lot
of a crowded publix supermarket on a saturday afternoon from a gun nut with
a van full of "assault rifles".  this transaction took place in plain site
of not only shoppers, but also a police cruiser on patrol. Buying an AK-47
is no big deal here.

as for hte urgency of the situation, if hte gun is not actually out of my
possession, no one can be killed by it.  and if it is out of my possession,
searching would not bring it back and prevent its use in a violent crime.  I
cannot help the situation much as my failure is not a present one, but the
past failure of losing my weapon.  As I have never been in this position
before, I was asking more out of an interest in what protocol would be.


my trunk was locked.  i never have a firearm out of my immediate possession
that is not locked.  it is simply gone and i don't yet know how.  right now
i'm mostly trying to locate the serial number so i can report it missing.

i'm not sure my attitude is all that "oh well.'' I am profoundly upset by
this.  It's a disgrace to have your firearm disappear on you and a serious
breach of a shooter's unwritten code.  losing your firearm is terrible thing
the likes of which i never thought would happen to someone like me.  I don't
believe anyone will be killed or injured on account of this and, even if
there is a risk of this happening, i don't believe that getting hysterical
can do anything but further erode the situation.


On 11/28/05, Mike Canfield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Don't now about you folks but you seem to be taking a missing firearm very
> lightly!  Why on earth would you have to ask a freakin discussion list
> about
> cars if they thought a missing firearm is serious or not?  Suppose some
> KID
> has stolen it......WHAT THEN?  Should you have waited to AT LEAST GET OFF
> YOUR ASS IN FRONT OF YOUR PC AND LOOK FOR THE DAMN GUN BEFORE SOMEONE GETS
> KILLED??????  I can't believe you would leave the trunk unlocked either!
> Sorry for the offensive post but the "OH WELL" attitude on this post
> sucks!
>
> Mike
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, November 28, 2005 1:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
>
>
> exactly.  there were 8 guns in the trunk.  one is not there.  could have
> fallen under something.  it is a 35 year old car.  will have to make a
> more
> serious search for it
>
> On 11/28/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Doesn't it seem odd that only the AK would be missing?   I'm assuming if
> > someone grabbed it they could have grabbed some others at the same time?
> > Maybe it's there under something or you put it somewhere else?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Larry T (78 240D)
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> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Gary Hurst" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Mercedes mailing list" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 8:23 PM
> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Concealed Carry, was Global warming
> >
> >
> > yeah, this is an interesting point which is covered, i believe, in the
> > current NRA magazine.  There is some general 21 foot law enforcement
> rule
> > for shooting a guy brandishing a knife.  while it would take me 2 weeks
> to
> > get to you from 21 feet, it took knife attackers under 1.5 seconds.
> >
> > As i'm an idiot, my initial reaction to this was to go online and look
> at
> > knives to buy.
> >
> > on a more serious note, my chinese AK is missing.  I remember putting it
> > in
> > the trunk for my trip to NC this weekend, but I did not see it (did see
> > all
> > the other guns, however) when i opened the trunk.  At what point if any
> am
> > i
> > morally or legally responsible to report this loss to the
> authorities?  I
> > am
> > horribly embarrassed by this and am still working under the presumption
> > that
> > it will "show up" some time soon, but i am getting a bit nervous that it
> > wasn't in it's regular gun case when i came home a few minutes ago.
> >
> >
> > On 11/27/05, Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > During PP (personal protection) class, we did an  excellent drill. Two
> > > people stand on the firing line. One person facing  the target with
> > their
> > > pistol sitting on a chair. THe second person  stands next to them, but
> > > facing AWAY from the firing line. THe range  officer yells "GO" and
> the
> > > person facing the target picks up the  weapons and shoots...meanwhile
> > the
> > > other person runs full speed in the  other direction and STOPS when
> the
> > > shot
> > > is heard.
> > >
> > > THe point - you can make it 25 feet in that time frame. As a SWAT
> > > team  acquantance said. If there is a man on the other side of the
> > > living  room threatening you with a knife, you better shoot
> quick...and
> > > you  might/probably still get stabbed.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > > Royce Engler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:  That reminds me of the
> > > following...
> > >
> > > SITUATIONAL ISSUE: You're walking down a deserted street with your
> wife
> > > and
> > > two small children.  Suddenly, a dangerous looking man with a huge
> knife
> > > comes around the corner, locks eyes with you, screams obscenities,
> > raises
> > > the knife and charges.  You are carrying a Glock .40 and you are an
> > expert
> > > shot.  You have mere seconds before he reaches you and your
> > family.  What
> > > do
> > > you do?
> > >
> > > LIBERAL ANSWER:
> > > Well, that's not enough information to answer the question!  Does the
> > man
> > > look poor and oppressed?  Have I ever done anything to him that would
> > > inspire him to attack?  Can we run away?  What does my wife
> think?  What
> > > about the kids?  Could I possibly swing my gun like a club and knock
> the
> > > knife out of his hand?  What does the law say about this
> > situation?  Does
> > > the Glock have an appropriate safety build into it?  Why am I carrying
> a
> > > loaded gun and what kind of message does it send to society and my
> > > children?
> > > Is it possible that he'd would be happy just killing me?  Does he
> > > definitely
> > > want to kill me or would he just be content to wound me?  If I grab
> his
> > > knees and hold on, could my family get away while he is stabbing
> > me?  This
> > > is all so confusing!  I need to debate this with some friends for a
> few
> > > days
> > > to try to come to a conclusion.
> > >
> > > CONSERVATIVE ANSWER:
> > > BANG!
> > >
> > > TEXAN ANSWER:
> > > BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!
> > > click....(Sounds of reloading)
> > > Wife: "Sweetheart, he looks like he is still moving, what do you kids
> > > think?"
> > > Son: "Mom's right, Dad, I saw it too."
> > > BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!  BANG!
> > > Click.
> > > Daughter: "Nice group, Daddy!  Where those the Winchester Silver
> Tips?"
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: redghost [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 10:51 PM
> > > To: Mercedes mailing list
> > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Global warming
> > >
> > >
> > > If you carry concealed, you better be ready to use if you draw.  Last
> > > week some idiot kid decided to shoot up a local mall.  Had an AK and
> > > side arm.  There was a fellow shopping with his family carrying
> > > concealed.  Idiot drew on the shooter, but spoke, instead of pulling
> > > the trigger.  He is just now getting out of ICU with probability of
> > > severe brain damage.  I suspect he had that prior to the bullets
> > > hitting.
> > >
> > > On Saturday, November 26, 2005, at 03:37 PM,
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
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