Thanks for all the info Ed!  There's a lot there, most of it I understand,
a bit I don't.  But it gives me a much better understanding of what going
the Ubuntu route involves.

Thanks again,

Ed
300E

On 5 February 2012 15:17, Ed Booher <edboo...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 11:28 PM, E M <pokieba...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I just had a look at the ubuntu site, along with some of the demo pics of
> > their OS.  It seems from the demo pics, that the LibreOffice icons are
> > displayed.  Not sure if that means ubuntu is bundled with LO ?
> >
>
> Linux as OS includes absolutely nothing bundled with it. Linux is the
> kernel, the very core of the system. However, Linux as a marketing product
> placement includes something truly crazy, like 250,000+ bundled
> applications. This is because the modern Linux distributions all have
> access to back line applications systems, not unlike the App Stores popping
> up. Ubuntu, Red Hat, SUSE, they all have direct and immediate access to
> almost every other open source application available through their package
> retrieval system. So if LibreOffice isn't actually in the distribution DVD,
> it's less that three clicks of the mouse away.
>
>
> > I really like the idea of a free open source OS, along with software that
> > works on the same principles.  Not that I mind paying for software at
> all,
> > but all this "phone home" stuff, constant updates, and linking my
> personal
> > info to various other sites MS, Google, and others might offer, is
> getting
> > to be a bit much I think.
> >
>
> Well, the problem is, if the only reason you are changing your OS is to get
> away from "phoning home" then you are going to be disappointed. Even the
> modern Linux systems are talking to home servers to offer you updates and
> packages. They aren't quite as bad as Microsoft, but then again, when you
> think about it what little Windows is phoning home about amounts to so much
> information daily that there isn't really a good way to localize and point
> to an individual specifically. Basically the logistics involved with trying
> to pin point a single user is astronomical, the data is being used as an
> indication of large wide reaching problems.
>
> Not saying you *shouldn't* worry about phone homes, but that many of them
> can be ignored.
>
>
> > I've love to scrap my Vista OS, and use something like ubuntu, along with
> > my firefox,  but being such a non techie guy, I have no idea how to do
> such
> > things to a PC.
> >
>
> Easier than falling off a log. Drop the disk in the drive, click, click,
> click, use. The "Big Three," Ubuntu, Red Hat and SUSE have all spent a very
> large amount of time, money and other resources to make their installation
> procedures as easy as a reinstall of a Windows product. In fact you don't
> even have to install them as the only OS which others have already pointed
> out.
>
> However, if you truly want to rid Windows from your home completely, make
> friends with a tech savvy person in your area. Don't think you are in
> Indiana, but I could have you up and running in pretty much no time. The
> real problem isn't the OS install, it's the data migration. How much do you
> have that is in a Microsoft Office format? (DOCX, XLSX, etc.) While
> LibreOffice can open most of the Microsoft file formats, they aren't always
> 100% accurate. So saving them off in a more standard format, (RTF, CVS) for
> the transfer might be a good idea. Do you have any data that is in a true
> Microsoft only format? Not necessarily Microsoft the company, but Windows
> the OS? Do you use any software that *only* runs in Windows, and therefore
> you will not be able to open that data on anything but that application on
> a Windows system? How *much* data do you have? Several terabytes? Couple
> hundred megabytes?
>
> You might want to look into a NAS like Brian has been asking about for his
> Macbook. A small system with simple RAID to help you keep a backup strategy
> is *always* a good idea. When a drive fails and you lose data, how bad is
> it for you? For me, I'd lose a decade of irreplaceable photos. There is no
> "hard copy" of them. Keep this in mind as well.
>
>
> > As a side note, what are everyone's thoughts on what's going on with the
> > upcoming changes to Google?
> >
>
> Which ones? If you mean their privacy policy, they actually do mean what
> they say, it's gotten easier. They had something like 15 different legal
> documents for privacy across their companies, each with their own little
> gotchas. They now have 2, so all Google companies except Postini now use
> the same Legal Privacy document. Do you mean how they have end of life
> several different Google services? Wave, App Builder, etc? Or are you
> referring to other changes?
>
>
> > Ed
> > 300E
> >
>
> EdB
>
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