I should have said South East Teas. On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:34 PM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:
> Oh, of course! 'Thought you meant WAY south. Friend of mine, Lt Col > (Ret) Joe Ornowski, lives in Katy, also. > > Wilton > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Neureiter" <diese...@gmail.com> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 1:16 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug question > > > West of Houston (Katy) >> >> On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 9:31 AM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: >> >> Where in South Texas? I lived in Harlingen for a year, 1960-61. >>> >>> Wilton >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Neureiter" <diese...@gmail.com> >>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 12:25 AM >>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Glow plug question >>> >>> >>> >>> Question comes from some one's post some weeks ago. >>> >>>> He replaced all GP's and had readings from good to bad, like 0.9 to 90+ >>>> Ohm >>>> I know I have to replace # UNO.(DOS, TRES, QUATRO, CHINCO,?) >>>> A PITA to get to and a small lump of denero. >>>> God bless South Texas. It hardly ever snows. >>>> All you snowmobile salesman, you're welcome, but first learn to rope a >>>> goat. >>>> I would like a some sort of technicaln input. MB,as always leaves us in >>>> the >>>> dark. >>>> Now I'm getting peturbed. $250K AMG vs. my 30+ year old jewel. >>>> FYAFIFH. (FH like in fish head) >>>> >>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 10:58 PM, Hans Neureiter <diese...@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Touching the leads together reads 0.00 Ohms. >>>> >>>>> Meter is good. And it is not the idiot reading it. >>>>> Plugs have been there for the same time under the same conditons. >>>>> Question to the ever knowing forum is: >>>>> Do Glow Plugs deteriotate or just go on/off like a light bulb? >>>>> I have nothing to compare, exept to adhere to Ohms Law and not knowing >>>>> how >>>>> the gizissicmos are made, I am confused. >>>>> Looking at the "Glow Plug"" on my electric stove (heating element) >>>>> it's a >>>>> no brainer. >>>>> Long skinny coiled wire imbedded in ceramic and clad with steel. >>>>> Of course, my stove top does not encounter vulcanic activities such as >>>>> extreme heat, shock and tremors. The GP does this 15 times/sec at idle. >>>>> >>>>> What resistance does a new good GP have? >>>>> >>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 9:15 PM, OK Don <okd...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Either you are correct, and the glow plugs are indeed bad (I've one or >>>>> >>>>>> two >>>>>> that read higher resistance than they should have been) or your meter >>>>>> needs >>>>>> calibrating. What does the meter read when you short the two probes >>>>>> together? >>>>>> >>>>>> On the other hand, if you don't need all new glow plugs now, you will >>>>>> at >>>>>> some time in the future. Go ahead and get them, then decide whether to >>>>>> replace all of them, or one at a time as they fail. You can also >>>>>> verify >>>>>> your meter against a new plug (assuming the new plug is good). >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM, Hans Neureiter <diese...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> > I use a Fluke MM. Setting it on auto or scale, same results. 95 O = >>>>>> 0.095 >>>>>> > KO, and it reads 0.01 Ohm. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > On second thought, the measurement of resistance may not be so >>>>>> > un-significant. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I am pretty much aware of the laws of physics that rule our world, >>>>>> > including Ohm’s law. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Cast in “Stone” they are; Gravity, Kinetic, Dynamic, Static, > >>>>>> Electric, >>>>>> > etc., etc. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > A glow plug is a resistor, a electrical conductor with a designated >>>>>> > resistance. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Current flowing through a conductor excites molecules/atoms and > >>>>>> causes >>>>>> heat >>>>>> > - it glows and eventually burns up if current is not limited. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Not knowing the metallurgical/chemical composition of a glow plug >>>>>> element, >>>>>> > it stands to reason to assume that the electrical characteristics >>>>>> > deteriorate, i.e. resistance increases. More resistance, less > >>>>>> current, >>>>>> less >>>>>> > glowing. Ohms Law is irrefutable, nor is the fact that things >>>>>> deteriorate >>>>>> > with age and use. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Ohm’s law is similar to the principals of Hydraulics: Pressure (V) - >>>>>> Head >>>>>> > (Ω) >>>>>> > - Flow (A). >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Only difference is that Head is influenced by Newton’s law (Static + >>>>>> > dynamic). Electricity is weightless and thus exempt from > >>>>>> gravitational >>>>>> > influences. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I just can’t get past the fact that Ohm tells me the plugs dont even >>>>>> > get >>>>>> > warm. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > I am reading 95 Ohm instead of 0.9 Ohm. Kind of like 95 % dead. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > A Ohmmeter tells you just the same as an Ammeter knowing the > >>>>>> Voltage. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Makes sense of my experience. No pre glow fault indication, but the >>>>>> motor >>>>>> > was hard to start below 40 F. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Well, #1 finally kicked the bucket and told me something is wrong. >>>>>> > >>>>>> > Just wondering if I am on the right track or way out in left field? >>>>>> > >>>>>> > -- >>>>>> > Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX >>>>>> > '82 300SD >>>>>> > '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI >>>>>> > ______________________________****_________ >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> OK Don >>>>>> 2001 ML320 >>>>>> 1992 300D 2.5T >>>>>> 1990 300D 2.5T >>>>>> 1997 Plymouth Grand Voyager >>>>>> ______________________________****_________ >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>>>> To search list archives >>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>>>>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**** >>>>>> okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>>>>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>>>> > >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX >>>>> '82 300SD >>>>> '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX >>>> '82 300SD >>>> '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI >>>> ______________________________****_________ >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>>> To search list archives >>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >>>> >>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_****okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>> > >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> ______________________________****_________ >>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >>> To search list archives >>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/ <http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/>> >>> >>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_****okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>> > >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX >> '82 300SD >> '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI >> ______________________________**_________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com >> To search list archives >> http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >> >> > > ______________________________**_________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com > To search list archives > http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> > -- Hans Neureiter, Katy, TX '82 300SD '01 VW New Beetle 1.9L TDI _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com For new and used parts go to www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
