Yeah Florida didn't really had great codes until Hurricane Andrew.
On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote: > Probably no re-bar in this FL slab; likely just WWF (welded wire fabric - > a heavy wire with 4" x 4" grid) at best, mainly to counter thermal > expansion and contraction - try to reduce cracking. > > Wilton > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Bennell" <rbenn...@bennell.ca> > To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:05 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tampa Florida man swallowed by sinkhole under bedroom > > > >> Yeah but . . . my garage floor is a concrete pad and there is steel >> rebar tied together on a grid of about 2 feet. If the ground opened up >> under it and the concrete sagged, I would not expect things the size of a >> bed and mattress to fall through the steel grid. >> I am guessing that it had no reinforcing in the concrete unless the >> conditions are such that the steel had rusted away. >> >> Randy >> >> >> >> On 04/03/2013 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas wrote: >> >>> House was 40yo or so I saw, so who knows how it was built. I vaguely >>> recall it was concrete block, which would suggest a slab of some sort. >>> Whether it had grade beams or such is questionable. But if a big hole >>> opens up.... >>> >>> --R >>> >>> On 3/4/13 12:29 PM, Randy Bennell wrote: >>> >>>> On 01/03/2013 5:17 PM, Dan Penoff wrote: >>>> >>>>> About 5-6 miles from me as the crow flies. >>>>> >>>>> Sinkholes aren't as common in our area as they are to the county north >>>>> of us (Pasco) where the water table is higher as is the concentration of >>>>> limestone nearer the surface. >>>>> >>>>> We had a home in our old neighborhood, which is just a few streets >>>>> away, that had an issue with ground stability. It wasn't really a >>>>> sinkhole >>>>> as much as it was the area consisting primarily of fill. It's pretty >>>>> obvious when you see this instability begin, as the walls and foundation >>>>> of >>>>> the house start to crack pretty significantly. >>>>> >>>>> This particular house was worth about $250k-$300k. After the issue >>>>> with the ground stability came up, it ended up being bought by the >>>>> insurance company and sold for something like $80k as-is. The new owners >>>>> spent about $35k stabilizing the ground and getting the structure sorted >>>>> out. >>>>> >>>>> Look at it now and you would never know. However, it has to be >>>>> disclosed in any sales documents. >>>>> >>>>> Dan >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> My understanding, for what it is worth, is that homes in Florida tend >>>> to be built on slabs and not have basements or grade beams with footings >>>> etc. I should have thought that the slab would be concrete and have steel >>>> reinforcement of some form. If so, I should have thought that even if the >>>> hole upened up under the house, no one would be in real danger unless it >>>> was big enough to swallow the whole house. Was this house old enough that >>>> it was not very well builtl? 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