Yeah Florida didn't really had great codes until Hurricane Andrew.

On Mon, Mar 4, 2013 at 11:23 AM, WILTON <wilt...@nc.rr.com> wrote:

> Probably no re-bar in this FL slab; likely just WWF (welded wire fabric -
> a heavy wire with 4" x 4" grid) at best, mainly to counter thermal
> expansion and contraction - try to reduce cracking.
>
> Wilton
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Bennell" <rbenn...@bennell.ca>
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> Sent: Monday, March 04, 2013 1:05 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Tampa Florida man swallowed by sinkhole under bedroom
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>> Yeah but . . .  my garage floor is a concrete pad and there is steel
>> rebar tied together on a grid of about 2 feet. If the ground opened up
>> under it and the concrete sagged, I would not expect things the size of a
>> bed and mattress to fall through the steel grid.
>> I am guessing that it had no reinforcing in the concrete unless the
>> conditions are such that the steel had rusted away.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 04/03/2013 11:58 AM, Rich Thomas wrote:
>>
>>> House was 40yo or so I saw, so who knows how it was built.  I vaguely
>>> recall it was concrete block, which would suggest a slab of some sort.
>>> Whether it had grade beams or such is questionable.  But if a big hole
>>> opens up....
>>>
>>> --R
>>>
>>> On 3/4/13 12:29 PM, Randy Bennell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 01/03/2013 5:17 PM, Dan Penoff wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> About 5-6 miles from me as the crow flies.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sinkholes aren't as common in our area as they are to the county north
>>>>> of us (Pasco) where the water table is higher as is the concentration of
>>>>> limestone nearer the surface.
>>>>>
>>>>> We had a home in our old neighborhood, which is just a few streets
>>>>> away, that had an issue with ground stability.  It wasn't really a 
>>>>> sinkhole
>>>>> as much as it was the area consisting primarily of fill.  It's pretty
>>>>> obvious when you see this instability begin, as the walls and foundation 
>>>>> of
>>>>> the house start to crack pretty significantly.
>>>>>
>>>>> This particular house was worth about $250k-$300k. After the issue
>>>>> with the ground stability came up, it ended up being bought by the
>>>>> insurance company and sold for something like $80k as-is.  The new owners
>>>>> spent about $35k stabilizing the ground and getting the structure sorted
>>>>> out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Look at it now and you would never know.  However, it has to be
>>>>> disclosed in any sales documents.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> My understanding, for what it is worth, is that homes in Florida tend
>>>> to be built on slabs and not have basements or grade beams with footings
>>>> etc. I should have thought that the slab would be concrete and have steel
>>>> reinforcement of some form. If so, I should have thought that even if the
>>>> hole upened up under the house, no one would be in real danger unless it
>>>> was big enough to swallow the whole house. Was this house old enough that
>>>> it was not very well builtl? The photos on the news did not make it look to
>>>> be a very good house.
>>>>
>>>> Randy
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