i became an opera fan a year ago. i spent my whole life thinking opera was some kind of fancy thing for pretentious rich people. then i ended up seeing one and was "oh, wow, this is great" so now i subscribe to my local opera company and go see the met stuff at the theater, but i don't see much future for opera as i'm generally the youngest person there who went voluntarily
On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 8:00 PM, Gerry Archer <arche...@embarqmail.com>wrote: > I liked symphonies as a young person, especially those with a principal > performer; Jascha Heifetz, for example. Later preferred opera, and > currently prefer vocal performers such as Dimitri Hvorostovsky, Elina > Garanca, etc: > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=OmPI2WNuUzE<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmPI2WNuUzE> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=aakfkGBh-fM<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aakfkGBh-fM> > > Gerry > > > > Yep; fantastic! A bit late, but very welcomed. Thanks. >> Wilton >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" < >> arche...@embarqmail.com> >> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 7:20 PM >> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie >> >> >> >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?**v=_-mvutiDRvQ<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_-mvutiDRvQ> >>> >>> Is there an icon on that page we can click right now to hear some >>>> symphony? 'Probably good for all of us. ;<)) >>>> >>>> Wilton >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerry Archer" < >>>> arche...@embarqmail.com> >>>> To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >>>> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2013 6:42 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT Louie Louie >>>> >>>> >>>> Beethovens 9th is undoubtedly one of the great compositons of >>>>> classical music: >>>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Beethoven%29> >>>>> but you can't really compare classical music to modern music. Modern >>>>> music can appeal to a much wider range of people than classical music; the >>>>> lovers of which undoubtedly have a "classical gene" left over from their >>>>> ancestors. (I fell in love with classical music at age 6). >>>>> Classical music has many bizarre forms; partitas for solo violin for >>>>> example; and the only way to separate the silliness from real music is to >>>>> state that any work which does not have "melody" is nonsense; at least to >>>>> the casual classic music listener. >>>>> IMO the decline of classical music began with the "Rite of Spring", >>>>> and it's gotten continually worse (Hindemith, et al). >>>>> Gerry >>>>> >>>>> From: "OK Don" <okd...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>>>> O M G !!! Both examples are black noise. Real music started dying >>>>>> after Beethoven's 9th ---- >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Gerry Archer < >>>>>> arche...@embarqmail.com>**wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The broad field of nonsense music from which all modern music is >>>>>>> derives >>>>>>> actually began in the 1920s with a South African song written by a >>>>>>> Zulu: >>>>>>> "Mbube" (Zulu: lion) was written in the 1920s by Solomon Linda, a >>>>>>> South >>>>>>> African singer of Zulu origin, who worked for the Gallo Record >>>>>>> Company as a >>>>>>> cleaner and record packer, and who performed with a choir, The >>>>>>> Evening >>>>>>> Birds, where, according to South African journalist Rian Malan: >>>>>>> "Mbube" wasn't the most remarkable tune, but there was something >>>>>>> terribly >>>>>>> compelling about the underlying chant, a dense meshing of low male >>>>>>> voices >>>>>>> above which Solomon yodelled and howled for two exhilarating minutes, >>>>>>> occasionally making it up as he went along. The third take was the >>>>>>> great >>>>>>> one, but it achieved immortality only in its dying seconds, when >>>>>>> Solly >>>>>>> [Solomon Linda] took a deep breath, opened his mouth and improvised >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> melody that the world now associates with these words: >>>>>>> 'In the jungle, the mighty jungle, the lion sleeps tonight.' >>>>>>> Linda's improvised melody was wordless; no English words occur in the >>>>>>> recording. >>>>>>> Issued by Gallo as a 78 recording in 1939 and marketed to black >>>>>>> audiences, >>>>>>> "Mbube" became a hit and Linda a star throughout South Africa. By >>>>>>> 1948, the >>>>>>> song had sold about 100,000 copies in Africa and among black South >>>>>>> African >>>>>>> immigrants in Great Britain and had lent its name to a style of >>>>>>> African a >>>>>>> cappella music that evolved into isicathamiya (also called mbube), >>>>>>> popularized by Ladysmith Black Mambazo.....snip" >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?****NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=**** >>>>>>> endscreen<http://www.youtube.com/watch?**NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=**endscreen> >>>>>>> <http://www.youtube.**com/watch?NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&** >>>>>>> feature=endscreen<http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=_LBmUwi6mEo&feature=endscreen> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> As everyone knows this led to scream music, ( Barbra Streisand and >>>>>>> others), which has become the current female standard; and all the >>>>>>> infinitely variegated forms of lunatic music (Grateful Dead, Punk, >>>>>>> etc.) as >>>>>>> a primary cause of the current decline of Western Civilization. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ou only hope is to go back to "real music" as best demonstrated by >>>>>>> Lawrence Welk. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Gerry....tic >>>>>>> ..............................****................ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> From: "Rich Thomas" >>>>>>> <richthomas79TD300@**construct**ivity.net<http://constructivity.net> >>>>>>> <richthomas79TD300@**constructivity.net<richthomas79td...@constructivity.net> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I am out working on my addition, listening to KPFT Houston >>>>>>> streaming over >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> the tubernets, and they just played a set of songs about Louie >>>>>>>> Louie. How >>>>>>>> many of y'all remember Louie Louie by the Kingsmen? It caused all >>>>>>>> kinds of >>>>>>>> stir, clearly the commienists were behind it, subverting the morals >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> Merkin youth with that filthy rocknroll trash. We knew it had >>>>>>>> dirty lyrics >>>>>>>> but no one could figure out what they were. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We would spontaneously break into playing that in band class in jr >>>>>>>> high, >>>>>>>> the band teacher Mr. Broome who was about 5ft tall and wide, and >>>>>>>> who hated >>>>>>>> that song with a passion (which of course became the lore of Mr. >>>>>>>> Broome >>>>>>>> that all kids knew, passed along, remembered, etc.) would go into an >>>>>>>> altered state when he heard us playing it before class started. It >>>>>>>> was the >>>>>>>> most awesome thing about band class. I think it was the only song >>>>>>>> we all >>>>>>>> learned to play without music and a band leader, go figure. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> After the first two years there he retired, another guy took over, a >>>>>>>> young guy, we tried that once and he had no issue with it so it >>>>>>>> just faded >>>>>>>> away.... but then the Laugh In song became popular and he had >>>>>>>> issues with >>>>>>>> that, so of course what did we do! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> --R >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ______________________________****_________ >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To search list archives >>>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>>>>>>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**** >>>>>>>> okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>>>>>>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/** >>>>>>>> mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ----- >>>>>>>> No virus found in this message. >>>>>>>> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >>>>>>>> Version: 2012.0.2242 / Virus Database: 3211/6103 - Release Date: >>>>>>>> 08/23/13 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> ______________________________****_________ >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To search list archives >>>>>>> http://www.okiebenz.com/****archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/**archive/> >>>>>>> <http://www.okiebenz.**com/archive/<http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >>>>>>> http://mail.okiebenz.com/****mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**** >>>>>>> okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/**mailman/listinfo/mercedes_**okiebenz.com> >>>>>>> <http://mail.**okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/**mercedes_okiebenz.com<http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com> >>>>>>> > >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> OK Don >>>>>> "They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary >>>>>> safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin 1775 >>>>>> "in this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and >>>>>> taxes." >>>>>> - Benjamin Franklin 1789 >>>>>> 2013 F150, 19 mpg >>>>>> 2012 Passat TDI DSG, 45 mpg >>>>>> 1957 C182A, 12 mpg - but at 150 mph! 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