snip <<<<<< End of discussion.>>>> Well.. I haven't heard that on the Lame Stream Media.. have I?
Thanks for posting that. btw. Certainly I would expect the daughter to know, in full, her families history of use of the land, prior contracts for the land dating back to 1887 would have to have been with the federal government and that would give them legal standing, it would seem. Seems pretty clear this is a complicated bit of business with the "little guy" against the "big government", and it appears the government does not come to court with clear "clean hands". Albeit, that needs clarification, not bullets and force. If we are a country of law, then government must also respect those laws. My many thanks to all other members on this board for their civil and careful discussion. I believe as a citizen, and a ranch owner, I hold two bits of interest in the outcome. Both are focused on governments use of force, either by physical force or by ms-application of agency charters through the legal system. In my personal view, it is a case of "Common man fights City Hall" .... Apparently, I am not alone in this view. On Sat, Apr 12, 2014 at 10:43 AM, Mitch Haley <m...@voyager.net> wrote: > There are so many versions of the Bundy story floating around, it's hard > to know what elements are true. > I've seen mention of tortoises, and claims that said tortoises are so > highly endangered that BLM is euthanizing the surplus population. I've seen > claims that the BLM ordered Bundy to reduce his herd size to 150, spread > across 158,000 acres. > > > The government's story is easy to find, just read any MSM news story on > the topic. > > The family's claims are summed up below. > > Post from Shiree Bundy: > > I have had people ask me to explain my dad's stance on this BLM fight. > Here it is in as simple of terms as I can explain it. There is so much to > it, but here it [i]s in a nut shell. > > My great grandpa bought the rights to the Bunkerville allotment back in > 1887 around there. Then he sold them to my grandpa who then turned them > over to my dad in 1972. These men bought and paid for their rights to the > range and also built waters, fences and roads to assure the survival of > their cattle, all with their own money, not with tax dollars. > > These rights to the land use is called preemptive rights. Some where down > the line, to keep the cows from over grazing, came the bureau of land > management. They were supposed to assist the ranchers in the management of > their ranges while the ranchers paid a yearly allotment which was to be use > to pay the BLM wages and to help with repairs and improvements of the > ranches. > > My dad did pay his grazing fees for years to the BLM until they were no > longer using his fees to help him and to improve. Instead they began using > these money's against the ranchers. They bought all the rest of the > ranchers in the area out with they're own grazing fees. When they offered > to buy my dad out for a penance he said no thanks and then fired them > because they weren't doing their job. He quit paying the BLM but, tried > giving his grazing fees to the county, which they turned down. > > So my dad just went on running his ranch and making his own improvements > with his own equipment and his own money, not taxes. In essence the BLM was > managing my dad out of business. Well when buying him out didn't work, they > used the endangered species card. You've already heard about the desert > tortoise. > > Well that didn't work either, so then began the threats and the court > orders, which my dad has proven to be unlawful for all these years. Now > their desperate. It's come down to buying the brand inspector off and > threatening the County Sheriff. Everything their doing at this point is > illegal and totally against the constitution of the United States of > America. > > Now you may be saying," how sad, but what does this have to do with me?" > Well, I'll tell you. They will get rid of Cliven Bundy, the last man > standing on the Bunkerville allotment and then they will close all the > roads so no one can ever go on it again. Next, it's Utah's turn. Mark my > words, Utah is next. Then there's the issue of the cattle that are at this > moment being stolen. See even if dad hasn't paid them, those cattle do > belong to him. > > Regardless where they are they are my fathers property. His herd has been > part of that range for over a hundred years, long before the BLM even > existed. Now the Feds think they can just come in and remove them and sell > them without a legal brand inspection or without my dad's signature on it. > They think they can take them over two boarders, which is illegal, ask any > trucker. Then they plan to take them to the Richfeild Auction and sell > them. All with our tax money. They have paid off the contract cowboys and > the auction owner as well as the Nevada brand inspector with our tax > dollars. See how slick they are? Well, this is it in a nut shell. Thanks" > > Shiree Bundy Cox > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. 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