I think its a little of column a, a little of column b and even a bit of column c. I've been using 15w50 oil which is probably a bit thick for this weather but it leaks less. I forgot about putting the multimeter on to check resistance, I'll check that tonight. The battery charger dropped to 2a within about 15 min indicating to me that the cold and the inverter had just taken the surface charge off the battery and the block heater had done nothing. I've never been able to hear the block heater make any sound but invariably when I'm listening theres a million cars driving by. When the starter was dying I was using 3rd to start with, todays shot with 4th was an experiment which I'm thinking didn't work out so well. I'd thought 4th would help get rpms up but apparently its difficult to overcome the resistance of the engine in that gear. Maybe tonight I'll experiment with a couple starts in each gear. Finally this car has had this battery for the 3 years I've had it and I've run it pretty flat a couple times which can't have helped it. Supposedly the battery was brand new when I got the car but who knows what that really means. I should pick up a new one. However I'm replacing the car soon with Dory (which has a 1000cca battery vs Hammie's 900cca) so I'm somewhat loathe to spend any money on Hammie. Of course that means the next owner will have to, since Hammie is already sold (pretty much anyway) I should probably just do it, I don't think my Indy would charge me a tremendous amount to put a new heater in... -Curt '83 240D "Hammie" 251kmi '85 190D "Dory"(Good catch Jim) 233kmi Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 06:10:21 -0800 From: Jim Cathey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Fat lotta good To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
> I'm not 100% sure the block heater works and my confidence is lowering > each cold spell we have. On a battery it should be very easy to tell. The heater draws 400W more or less and should have removed roughly 33 AH from your battery, which would be in the 85-100 AH rating. A serious drain in other words. Your battery charger could tell you after the fact. At a 10A recharge rate (high) it should take something like four hours or more to replenish the battery. Much less than that and it's apparent that your block heater is not up to snuff. Also, the block heater should measure only in the tens of ohms range via multimeter, and when operating often makes a sizzling sound. > We live on a pretty good hill so we hauled him up to the top and I > rolled him down in 4th gear. Didn't do much good, I was surprised that > in 4th the car would stop in about 50 feet even on our hill. Having roll-started more than my share (of gassers) in my 'yewt', I'd say fourth gear was much too high a gear. We always did it in second or third. Gotta get those revs up. If you don't have a multimeter it's time to get one. Other 'portable' ideas include a propane torch on the intake manifold or a hair drier pointed into the intake air horn while starting, assuming your battery/inverter is up to the 1kW+ load of the typical hair drier. I use a heat gun (garage hair drier/cigarette lighter) on my Unimog (which has no glow plugs). It works. -- Jim --------------------------------- Yahoo! Photos Showcase holiday pictures in hardcover Photo Books. You design it and well bind it! From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Jan 16 15:29:50 2006 Received: from wproxy.gmail.com ([64.233.184.206]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1EyWIn-0000tW-VN for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:29:50 +0000 Received: by wproxy.gmail.com with SMTP id i11so2438769wra for <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:29:48 -0800 (PST) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=beta; d=gmail.com; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition; b=fEdAR3w8YlWZGIUNO3F5+mOhNxBDpRVQvGWGBkQ6jZC2/wZxWyvI3jct4qmM/LwtvgpHH9ZckHpPRxNCiogKQHuN1fdihPK6N/ixlxOGqci98m5g1xwffur3I4bhcHn/PXfBdTnqHOuNfXi2JQ/bjAI0Zxl3wpyyrEhXeOeM3OM= Received: by 10.65.188.12 with SMTP id q12mr2932730qbp; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:29:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.232.5 with HTTP; Mon, 16 Jan 2006 07:29:47 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 08:29:47 -0700 From: "Dave M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Cc: Joe Knight <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Evaporator cleaning - update X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Jan 2006 15:29:50 -0000 Aaron, Yup, that's approximately how it looks. That page shows a 1994/95 model with the factory dust filters. I don't recall seeing that plastic 'waffle' grid blocking access to the evaporator core on my E500, though. Maybe I didn't pull the fan motor when I had it apart to change the filters. That would make cleaning more complicated on later models. Then again, models with the dust filters probably would never *need* an evaporator cleaning! I sure wish MB had thought of the filter trick from the start of 124 production. If my evaporator ever goes belly-up, I'd be tempted to buy the whole late-style heater box and swap that in (but the cost would be hard to swallow.) Wray, there have been a number of posts throughout the day, every day, AFAICT. Might just be a hiccup on your new subscription? If you don't start getting regular posts, contact our benevolent (or malevolent?) listmom, Kaleb. :-) -Dave M. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 21:20:21 -0800 > From: Aaron Lam <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [MBZ] Evaporator cleaning - update > > > Cool beans Dave. I should probably try this sometime, because AFAIK my > car has the original evap. I'm guessing your procedure looked similar > to this? > > http://www.geocities.jp/mbw124note/air/coolingfan.htm > > -Aaron