# Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 \$23 at Wally World

```Not sure I understand. Every industrial engine sampling program I ever ran was
sampled on a regular schedule.```
```
I understand the baseline concept, but in the programs I worked with we would
sample several times a year to determine the oil condition to determine when it
was exhausted and should be changed.

Dan

> On Jul 16, 2014, at 6:34 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> You know you don't continue with the samples right? You get a good baseline
> and then continue with your OCI...
> Plus this gives you a baseline so you know whats inside your engine...
>
> -Curt
>
> From: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
> To: Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 6:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Mobil 1 \$23 at Wally World
>
> I just did the math on this and it doesn't make sense. Here's what I'm
> thinking:
>
> 7.5 quarts of oil = \$34.50
> Oil filter = \$10.00
>
> Oil change total = \$44.50
>
> Twice a year = \$89.00
>
> Oil change = \$44.50
> Oil samples = \$60.00
>
> Once a year oil change + samples = \$104.50
>
>
> I could dink around with the frequencies of samplings and changes, but let's
> say you do it over a year as shown above. You're spending more than two oil
> changes. Push it out to 18 months and the difference is marginal at best.
>
> The numbers just don't add up or make sense to me.
>
> Dan
>
>
>
>
>> On Jul 16, 2014, at 5:55 PM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>
>> One last thing and I'll shut up, the analysis is so easy the "hassle and
>> expense" is laughable. Remember you do it 3-5 times which shows you the
>> duration that the oil is viable.
>> You contact Larry and give him \$60, he sends you 3 bellows bottles. You put
>> the tube down the dipstick hole, crush all the air out of the bottle and
>> then suck up a sample. Put on the cap, put it in a baggie, fill out the
>> paperwork, put the bottle/baggie in the prepaid mailer and then drop it in
>> the mail. Later he emails you results and sends a paper copy in the mail.
>> Couldn't possibly be easier unless somebody did it for you.
>>
>> I wish I could find the post on TDIclub where they talked about the oil
>> being more abrasive than it ought to at first but I can't. When I find it
>> again I'll let you know. Interestingly if you try googling around theres
>> quite the rift. Many of the car sites like Edmunds are pushing people away
>> from the 3,000 mile oil change but theres several shop pages pushing people
>> back to it. The later are suggesting that cars are sludging up and failing
>> because of infrequent oil changes. What they aren't saying is that extended
>> OCI on conventional oils or cars that require synthetic is probably they
>> cause...
>>
>> -Curt
>
>
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