Because the time stamp on this was within a few minutes of the post I'll let this slide. I don't want to see any more replies to this thread.
Period. Dan List Mom with her finger on the Moderation button On Oct 5, 2014, at 8:34 PM, Craig via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > On Sun, 5 Oct 2014 19:07:20 -0500 Peter Frederick via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > >> This is trash promulgated by a non-scientist with a right wing agenda. >> >> You should know better than to parrot viral garbage racing around the >> internet before you do due diligence. > > Actually your vitriolic rant is what is garbage. I am a scientist and am > on an email list of many leading scientists who discuss the > mis-information behind the climate hysteria, not the least of which is > that the climate models are increasingly divergent from what is actually > happening. > > From a posting on that list, > ------------------------------------------------------ > > Incidentally, the handle of the hockey stick was produced by Mann using > tree rings, which in itself is wrong as they represent precipitation not > temperature. When the tree ring trend they produced went down in the 20th > century they tacked on the "modern" record produced by Jones (hide the > decline). Jones record became the blade of the hockey stick and shows the > up turn on this graph. > > In his original work Jones claimed the temperature increased 0.6°C in > approximately 120 years and that this was unnatural because it exceeded > any natural temperature record increase. The ice core record shows that > is false. More troubling, the Jones data was 0.6°C ±0.2°C or a ±33% > percent error range. When Warwick Hughes asked for Jones' data he > replied, on 21, February 2005. "We have 25 or so years invested in the > work. Why should I make the data available to you, when your aim is to > try and find something wrong with it." Then Jones reported, what I think > we will eventually hear from Mann, that he lost the data. > http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2010/feb/15/phil-jones-lost-weather-data > Notice he says it is not acceptable, but he was never held accountable. > > Yes, the Mann or more correctly the Phil Jones and IPCC modern record up > turn in the 20th century is insignificant in the 10,000 Holocene record. > The reason for Mann's hockey stick was to support the argument that > todays temperatures are the highest ever. We pointed out that the > Medieval Warm Period, around 1000 on the graph was warmer, so Mann set > out to get rid of it. It wasn't just Mann, but the entire gang at the > Climatic Research Unit (CRU), most of who were on the IPCC. One was > Jonathan Overpeck, who in an email to David Deming said."We have to get > rid of the Medieval Warm Period." Deming gave this as sworn testimony to > the Congress. http://www.epw.senate.gov/hearing_statements.cfm?id=266543 > > When we argued that the world was warmer for most of the Holocene as the > Greenland graph shows, the argument made by NASA (Hansen), NOAA and > especially the CRU people was that it was only warmer in summer > temperatures. What rubbish. > > The evidence isn't just the ice core record. Here is a photograph of a > White Spruce some 100 km north of the current tree line. It was taken by > Professor Ritchie and first appeared in Lamb's Volume 2. I obtained > permission from Professor Ritchie to use it in articles I was writing. > Here the photo is attached to a similar Holocene graph to the one > produced by NOAA that I used in a powerpoint presentation.. > > Notice the temperature was at least 2°C warmer than at present, yet the > IPCC say this would be a catastrophic warming. The question is how did > the polar bears survive the Holocene, because there was certainly > considerably less ice. > > So many lies, so much terrible science. So little accountability > > ----------------------------------------------------- > > The billions of dollars of funding that has been poured into supporting > the hysteria has corrupted many scientists and degraded science. > > > Craig > Ph.D. physics > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those > individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has > no control over the content of the messages of each contributor. _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com All posts are the result of individual contributors and as such, those individuals are responsible for the content of the post. The list owner has no control over the content of the messages of each contributor.
