I agree.  Moen has gone downhill fast.

On Tue, Mar 24, 2015 at 2:58 PM, Randy Bennell via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Perhaps I am unreasonable but many years ago I swore I would never buy
> another Moen faucet.
> We bought one and installed it in our sink in the main bath on the second
> floor in our home.
> The thing was poorly designed from the get go. There was a plastic piece
> inside that had threads. It is long enough ago that I do not recall the
> exact details but the gist of the issue is that the threaded part only
> screwed into the other part by one or two threads. Over time the plastic
> threads would break and the thing would come apart.
> Moen offers free parts so one cannot go to a local store and buy parts.
> One must call Moen and wait for the parts to appear.
> They were good about shipping parts but the stupid thing kept breaking and
> we could not use that sink about half of the time for quite a period of
> time.
> They came up with a better grade of plastic part and claimed that would
> fix it but it did not.
> They provided half a dozen new parts at a time so I had spares but I got
> tired of changing them out.
> To their credit, when I ultimately got mad enough to demand my money back,
> they sent me a cheque for what I had paid for the faucet.
> That whole experience however left me unwilling to buy Moen.
> They have survived so not all of their stuff must be that bad but that one
> experience was enough to make me look elsewhere for faucets ever since.
> The replacement that we bought for that Moen was a Delta, if my memory is
> correct and it was on the sink when we fully renovated the bathroom and
> removed the sink and vanity altogther.
>
> The original taps were better than the Moen. They may have been Delta as
> well. They had two knobs and my wife wanted a single handle faucet. We had
> to replace the sink which rusted out and that justified new taps at the
> same time.
> That was when we got the Moen that was no end of trouble.
>
> RB
>
>
> On 24/03/2015 1:45 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> No doubt.
>>
>> I can't speak for Kohler, but in the past I've typically bought Moen
>> higher end stuff and it's been good.
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>  There seems to be less brass and more plastic.
>>>
>>> RB
>>>
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