OK, you go on believing that, and I'll go on believing my friend.  As well
as my own ears - I have definitely heard loud bikes come up from behind, at
freeway speeds and in freeway traffic - windows up.  

T

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Ervine
> Sent: Thursday, January 26, 2006 8:30 AM
> To: Mercedes Discussion List
> Subject: Re: [MBZ] Bike rider, loud pipes
> 
> 
> Tim C wrote:
> > Actually, loud pipes let cars (mostly driven by blithering 
> idiots who 
> > fail to see anything smaller than a Suburban) know you're there.
> 
> That "Loud Pipes Saves Lives" mentality is based in junk 
> science.  The only time 
> you can hear them at highway speeds is when the bike is in 
> front of you, because 
> the pipes point to the rear of the bike!  All it is is 
> pointless noise pollution 
> thrust upon the general public in the name of saving lives by 
> people who have no 
> concept of the nature of sound waves or the Doppler Effect.
> 
> The real problem is that drivers in cars are never taught 
> driver responsibility 
> or instructed in the proper operation of their vehicles - 
> much less to be aware 
> of pedestrians and motorcycles on or near the roadways.  
> Until such education is 
> required for obtaining a license, all the straight pipes in 
> the world won't save 
> the average RUB on his Harley from Sally Soccermom's suburban 
> assault vehicle.
> 
> -- 
> John L. Ervine
> 1981 240D 4-spd 268+kmi
> 1980 300TD 170+kmi
> 1980 300SD 277+kmi
> 1977 280S 4-spd 80+kmi

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