The problem it seems these days is people seem to think once they have a degree 
the world should be handed to them. 

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> On Jul 17, 2015, at 10:03 AM, G Mann via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> A college degree imparts nothing if the owner of the degree parks his butt
> on the degree and waits for "magic to come to him" because he has it..
> 
> It seems that may be the case with many who hold student loans for their
> degree in "liberal underwater basket weaving", or "social victimology"
> [snark full on].
> 
> Life is hard, life is harder if you don't get off your butt and apply what
> talents you have, to use what tools you have.
> 
> A degree with no work ethic and no will to win is worth only the paper it
> is written on.... barely.
> 
> On Fri, Jul 17, 2015 at 7:53 AM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> 
>> College seems like a big racket these days to me. I know lots of folks
>> paying off student loans all their life that don't really make that much
>> money.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:04 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Depends on the education.
>>> On average a degree in anything is a big step up, a degree in something
>> useful is a huge step up especially if you've worked real hard and gotten
>> yourself some experience through an internship or summer job.
>>> -Curt
>>>     From: Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>> Cc: Kaleb C. Striplin <ka...@striplin.net>
>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 9:59 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
>>> 
>>> And what exactly is the value of an education these days?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 8:24 AM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> That will be the current approach, but I will replace the car. Back in
>> my day I could drive a beater but I don't want my kids driving them. It's a
>> matter of personal preference.
>>>> 
>>>> The rule here is that as long as you're in school full time the house
>> provides wheels and covers expenses.  He's a damned good student and a
>> responsible kid for his age. I consider keeping him in a nice car a perk,
>> and he knows it and is very, very appreciative. Most of his non-college
>> buddies drive beaters they are constantly patching together to keep on the
>> road. I want him to understand the value of an education and the ability to
>> have and afford nice things as a result. Seeing that contrast on a daily
>> basis makes a very powerful impression - it has on him, for sure.
>>>> 
>>>> As the son of a first generation immigrant, I have worked hard to get
>> where I am. I want my kids to have nice things and be successful, and if I
>> can contribute to that while making sure they have a good set of values and
>> appreciate what it takes to get where we are, I'm happy to do so.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 17, 2015, at 9:02 AM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes <
>> mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Eh. Just bash it back into approximately the right shape and replace
>> the light. College kid right? He drives what rolls, if he doesn't like it
>> he can get a job and buy his own car...
>>>>> -Curt
>>>>>    From: Dan Penoff via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> To: Okie Benz <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
>>>>> Cc: Dan Penoff <d...@penoff.com>
>>>>> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2015 5:39 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [MBZ] S500 Ouchies
>>>>> 
>>>>> I looked there as well. They h
>> 
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