Andrew... you have to get out more often...

BUFF .. is the well accepted military "street name" for B-52... Big Ugly
Fat F**Ker.   Aluminum overcast.. to big to fly.. to ugly to love... Unless
you are extremely talented and incredibly smart.. like Wilton..

On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 1:25 PM, Andrew Strasfogel via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> I gotta ask - what's BUFF?
>
> Nixon was never a warm and fuzzy guy but he did OK politically.
>
> On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 4:05 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > I've never said I hate 'im, nor have ever heard any of my fellow B-52
> > crewmen say such.  We just did not hold him in very high esteem.  'Still
> > don't.
> >
> > Wilton
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: Andrew Strasfogel
> >   To: Mercedes Discussion List
> >   Cc: WILTON
> >   Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 1:35 PM
> >   Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> >
> >
> >   Well a whole lot of hatin' going on.  If he is so despised how come he
> > is a shoo-in to get renominated/reelected?
> >
> >
> >   On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 12:19 PM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >     We BUFF guys also held John Mc in low regard; his treatment of his
> > wife sealed it for me.
> >
> >     Wilton
> >
> >     ----- Original Message ----- From: "G Mann via Mercedes" <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >     To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >     Cc: "G Mann" <g2ma...@gmail.com>
> >     Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 11:45 AM
> >     Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> >
> >
> >
> >       Well said, Wilton.
> >
> >       Any and all who went North earned and deserve respect.
> >
> >       I know three John McCain
> >
> >       The ego driven hotdog pilot, who likely benefited  from and used to
> > his
> >       advantage, being the Admirals son. Who I hold in pretty low regard.
> >
> >       The Prisoner of War, who I respect, and thanked for having endured
> > the
> >       endless torture and privation.
> >
> >       The Senator, who for 32 yrs, has spoken much, but done little, who
> > dumped
> >       and divorced the mother of his children, who stood by him all the
> > while he
> >       was POW, and who then married the rich young hottie, and I hold
> that
> > one in
> >       pretty low regard also.
> >
> >       Trump didn't get where he is by being shy and retiring. He is smart
> > and
> >       ruthless. He also is not intimidated by anyone... So, I don't see
> an
> >       apology in the future.
> >       McCain and the rest of us are seeing a game change in action.
> Trump,
> > even
> >       if defeated will have "left his mark" before it's over in how DC
> > elites do
> >       business.
> >
> >       Frankly, it's the kind of "hope and change" much of America had in
> > mind
> >       when the present administration sold the phrase. Should be
> > interesting to
> >       watch them run away from it now.
> >
> >       Question:  If Germany had not made war on the civilized world,
> would
> > we be
> >       driving Mercedes cars today? Would they have been "discovered" in
> > America?
> >
> >
> >       On Tue, Jul 21, 2015 at 8:01 AM, WILTON via Mercedes <
> > mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >       wrote:
> >
> >
> >         In a sense, Trump was  right - McCain and others would not have
> > been so
> >         "famous" and considered so "heroic" if they had not been shot
> down
> > and
> >         captured - selected by Fate to endure the unimaginable.  But for
> > the Grace
> >         of God there was I.  I'm not so sure I could have endured the
> many
> > years of
> >         captivity and torture that they did, though, and I'm extremely
> > thankful
> >         that I never had to try.  Those of us lucky enough to have NOT
> > been shot
> >         down occasionally discussed the subject, but not one of us was
> > willing to
> >         exchange places with a POW.  I have great respect for every one
> > them and
> >         what they endured.
> >
> >         So, in a literal sense, Trump was right - ya just can't say it
> > like that -
> >         well, Trump, who "dodged" such service completely, can't
> > (shouldn't),
> >         anyway.
> >
> >         Wilton
> >
> >         From: "Curly McLain via Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >         To: "Mercedes Discussion List" <mercedes@okiebenz.com>
> >         Cc: "Curly McLain" <126die...@gmail.com>
> >         Sent: Tuesday, July 21, 2015 12:40 AM
> >         Subject: Re: [MBZ] Trump card
> >
> >
> >
> >          >Anyone listen to the 31 broadcasts McCain made while at the
> > Hanoi Hilton?
> >
> >
> >
> >             Over North Vietnam radio?
> >
> >             Anyone know that he had charges against him upon his release?
> > Anyone know
> >             he got a Presidential Pardon?
> >
> >             Yeah.. didn't think so.. Might want to look into just what
> the
> > guy is
> >             really made of.  Trump isn't that far off the mark, if you
> > look at the
> >             true
> >             facts..
> >
> >             Just saying.. Go digging.
> >
> >             On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 2:32 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes <
> >             mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> >
> >               Or, better said, he handles himself?
> >
> >
> >                <grin>
> >
> >                 > Dan
> >
> >              >
> >
> >
> >
> >           Some have said that the rockets going off on the carrier was an
> > attempt
> >           at fragging aimed at little john.  At any rate, he was NOT well
> > liked in
> >           his squadron.  Probably not on the float....   Anyone know for
> > sure if the
> >           rocket that brought mclame down was truly a sam? I don't.  I
> > have not
> >           researched it.
> >
> >           I don't think Trump is as historically illiterate as his
> > detractors. I
> >           have not heard the whole 15 minute interview with trump on Sat.
> > In
> >           context, I doubt it was a slam on all veterans, as we have been
> > told, but
> >           rather a comment just about mclame.
> >
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