I was thinking of hitting knackers, but the w140 has become a bit scarce for 
the past few months

clay

On Feb 28, 2016, at 6:23 PM, Curly McLain via Mercedes wrote:

> 
> 
> This is all general MB experience, nothing particular to a 140POS.
> 
> The rear windows have a kidproof lockout.  perhaps all that needs to be done 
> is to slide that switch the other direction.
> 
> LF and RR should be on one circuit, and RF and LR on the other.
> 
> I've had the plastic slider fail, letting the window fall (not on a 140)
> 
> About 1985, the regulators got cheap, going form a cast aluminum gear to a 
> stamped 1/8" steel gear.  The steel gear strips.  That is usually manifest 
> first by a clicking sound when the window is up all the way.
> 
> You could have a bad slider, a bad regulator or a bad motor or even bad 
> wiring.
> 
> the motors, even on say a 126 come in many shapes and sizes, so probably not 
> easily interchangeable.  Best bet is to acquire the whole regulator/motor 
> assembly from the knackers and change it, IF that is the problem.
> 
> 
>> Boy thinks the glass has fallen off the arm.  Driver window had failed last 
>> year and we screwed around with it.  It might have a wiring issue.  Rear 
>> windows are the ones not going up or down. Weather around there is -40 much 
>> of the time, so he has not opened it up to really know.
>> 
>> I pulled the regulators from the W115 and found that the motors would fail 
>> out, but the gearing part was still good.  Except one. Electric motors were 
>> pretty standard, so could swap around.   I assume the motors for other 
>> models could work.  If I can snag them from PnP, that would be useful, but 
>> would need to know what model had compatible motors.
>> 
>> Since I am 900 miles away from the car, I was wondering mean time between 
>> failure for systems was.  The likelihood of motor, regulator, or other part 
>> being prime cause so the parts are on deck so he does not need to drive 
>> around waiting for the parts or to solve the problem.
>> 
>> Car has the original biodegradable harness.  CEL has been illuminated since 
>> he got the car, but it clears long enough to pass emissions.  There are a 
>> few spots were the insulation is gone, and the thing needs replaced.  I was 
>> wondering what replacement harness costs.  If it is reasonable, I would just 
>> get him one for his birthday.  He has enough idiots he lives with who can 
>> help him install
>> 
>> 
>> clay
>> 
>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>> 
>> 
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>> 
>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 5:25 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes wrote:
>> 
>>> Well I have owned 140s for decades before poos did but have forgotten more 
>>> about them that poos knows. But anyway what are the problems exactly with 
>>> the windows?
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On Feb 28, 2016, at 7:14 PM, clay via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> This is a long distance mystery diagnosis/fix.
>>>> 
>>>> #1 boy has his 300SE in ND with windows that are misbehaving. Erratic 
>>>> weather at the moment, so he is unwilling to dive in until deeper into 
>>>> Spring.  I have been able to figure out the switches are good.  When it is 
>>>> unzipped, we will know if the motor, regulator, or some wee part is making 
>>>> the window unhappy.
>>>> 
>>>> Dan, since you have vast knowledge of the W140 series.  What are the most 
>>>> probable causes that you have found?  Kid is hoping it is a simple Dorman 
>>>> part instead of needing to dig deep into the EPC. Maybe Kaleb has window 
>>>> motors that he will part with, or should we look at just replacing the 
>>>> motor and using original gearing?
>> >>
>> >> Child is now investing far too much in heavy weaponry because he thinks a 
>> >> wire harness is thousands of $$$.  Is this a realistic view, or can a 
>> >> fresh Delco harness be found for a few hundred?   He had pulled a harness 
>> >> out of a 93 SE, but cut it short of the computer end.  Are they even 
>> >> compatible?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> clay
>>>> 
>>>> 2002 s430 - Victor, a Stately & well tailored chap
>>>> 1974 450sl -  Frosch - Two tone green
>>>> 1976 300D - Blei Vanst - it looks silvery
>> >> 1972 220D - Gump - She was green, simple and ran
>>>> 1995 E300D - Gave her life to save me against a Dame in a SUV
>>>> POS 1987 SDL - Beware Nigerian Scammers
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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