I saw a GenU-wine 57 plymie today! Running down the road, pushbuttons
and all! Faded red with a white top. BIG fins!
Mitch Haley via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 29, 2016 at 7:05 PM
A friend in high school had a 1962 Polara with push button torqueflite
transmission.
http://www.kingoftheroad.net/1964_Chrysler_New_Yorker_wagon/images/64-chry-tranny-buttons.jpg
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Scott Ritchey via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 29, 2016 at 6:44 PM
The last push-button shifter I saw was on an Edsel.
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Joel Cairo via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 29, 2016 at 8:19 AM
Driving the ML blueytechie the other day I shut it off (pushed a
button) while it was still in "D" (push a lever sorta down) and it
appeared not to then go into "P" since I had not pushed the button on
the end of the lever to tell it to "P" before pushing it off. It
seemed to still be in something other than "P" though no indication of
what ("N"?). I think I might then have pushed the "P" button at the
end of the "shift" lever or pushed the parking brake button to set the
brake (I looked for an actual pedal or mechanical lever but alas there
was no such thing) or both as it was on a slight incline anyway,
whichever it was it stopped rolling on the incline.
It also has steering wheel paddles, the functions of which I have not
bothered to learn yet as it seems to know what it needs to do to move
the thing once I tell it to "D" or "R" using the little "shift" lever
and push the "throttle" pedal switch lever thing. All the various
electronic nannies seem to get their shit together though when I push
the "throttle" switch lever pedal as it moves with considerable
alacrity and becomes quite entertaining -- not bad for a dizzel.
The brakes on it (brake switch lever pedal) are touchy as hell too,
doesn't take much to do a faceplant in the windshield.
One thing I have noticed, and it is mildly annoying, is that it seems
to either downshift or put on the JakeBrake when one lets off the
"throttle" -- it seems to bog down almost like applying the brake
switch lever pedal, not coasting. That might be some function of the
transmission downshifting or TC staying locked up or something, I
don't know. Or maybe the German nannies just know what I want to do,
or should be doing, and do it for me.
I am hoping for the Benzites also to get busted for monkeying with the
dizzel nannies so I can get some money from them.
--JC
Curley McLain <mailto:126die...@gmail.com>
June 28, 2016 at 11:59 PM
Yep! the pushbutton gearshift has gone to the absurd! A simple lever
still works best, even if it is only and electric switch with
detents. At the auction I had to drive some of those miserable goofy
things. The one pictured as lan drover, with the rotary switch was in
something I drove, but not a lan drover. MB is right there with the
absurdity, but at least theirs is somewhat easy to decipher.
But a multimillion$$$$$$$ lawsuit won't stop them from using stupid,
non-intuitive gagets in place of a gear shift. All the millions toada
had to pay out for the push and pray did not slow down the use of push
and pray.
THe "gear shift" is now in the hands of software developers, and not
engineers. Software developers love to make the use of the software
obscure, odd, weird, or oddball, so that you need a class to be able
to use a telephone. (as an example) It is not about functionality, but
about how to impress other software nerds with how obscure and weird I
made this. Look for more "gearshift" deaths, just like "Push and
pray" deaths.
The pushbutton gearshift of the 50s was workable, if unreliable. the
new pushbutton gearshifts are not workable, reliable or safe. BEWARE!
Buy a 123, 124 or 126, or 116, or 108-115 instead!
Meade Dillon via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>
June 28, 2016 at 12:03 PM
PRNDL is dead, long live PRNDL!
http://www.autonews.com/article/20160627/OEM11/306279980/array-of-levers-and-dials-complicates-a-once-simple-function
I would think that if I needed to read the manual just to figure out
how to
shift the transmission, I have just demonstrated that the car (or truck or
whatever) is too complex and a hazard to operate.
Competing for dash / console space with all the rest of the buttons and
dials? That statement alone should be a clue that there is a deeper
problem here.
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Max
Charleston SC
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