Curt, please stop. You're gonna make our heads EXPLODE. On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes < mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
> I just had kinda a sideways thought since this is not the first time > somebody on the list has used the "its not a zero sum game" argument. > How come when a Republican wants to cut taxes and spend money its "not a > zero sum game" but when a Democrat wants to spend money they're a "tax and > spend liberal"? If government spending makes more money isn't it always > good? > Both parties spend more money, they say they don't but their actions > refute that. > -Curt > > From: Curley McLain via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > To: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > Cc: Curley McLain <126die...@gmail.com> > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 6:31 PM > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs > > It is not a fixed sum game. I'll take a stab at explaining. > > In 1980, when RR was elected, the GDP was about 1.6 trillion per > quarter. The gooberment spent about 325 Billion of this amount. (or > about 20%) > > In 2000, when W was elected, The GDP was about 8.9 trillion per > quarter. The gooberment spent 1.5 trillion of this. (or about 16%) > http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=9&step=1# > reqid=9&step=3&isuri=1&903=10 > > So in the span of 20 years, the US economy grew roughly 6 fold. This > growth was the result of the RR policies, and the "contract with > America" of 1994. > > in 2016, the GDP is roughly 16.5 trillion per quarter. The goobermnt > spent about 2.9 billion of this. (or about 17%) > http://www.bea.gov/iTable/iTable.cfm?ReqID=9&step=1# > reqid=9&step=3&isuri=1&903=6 > so, in the last 16 years, rather than growing 5 fold, the economy has > been choked, and grew only 2 fold. > > Here are the questions for you to answer: (Yep it is homework) > 1. What is the current national debt? > 2. What would the quarterly GDP be in 2016, if the GDP had grown at the > rate of 6 fold in 20 years? > 3. What would the gooberment's share of that be, if we limited the > goobermnt to 17% of the GDP (per quarter)? > 4. How many years would it take to pay off the national debt if the > difference between the actual gooberment expenditures and the amount the > goobermnt would have taken in was applied to reduce the national debt? > > 5. If that difference were applied to Social Insecurity, where the > average payment is now $1200/mo, (rather an applied to paying down the > national debt) what would the average monthly payment be now? > > I await answers from the group. > > As you research and determine answers to these 5 simple questions, it > will become obvious how much damage has been done in the last 8/16 years. > > > Curt Raymond via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > August 8, 2016 at 4:38 PM > > So Roger, show me a plan from Trump that makes sense. How is it > > possible to lower taxes, spend more AND balance the budget. Maybe I'm > > not smart enough to understand that. > > -Curt > > > > From: rogerhga--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > To: "List, Mercedes" <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > Cc: roger...@comcast.net > > Sent: Monday, August 8, 2016 5:07 PM > > Subject: Re: [MBZ] OT: political signs > > > > Curt, maybe you and Andrew can form a club, maybe called the Rose > > Colored Glasses club. And I'm glad to know of your father's low > > intelligence and your own personal massive intellect. Next time I have > > a tough decision, I'll consult you and then do just the opposite :-)) > > I only hope your sick on election day and can't vote. Nothing serious, > > maybe just diarrhea or some such to keep you home. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > > Monroe, Ga. > > 770-267-0850 > > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > rogerhga--- via Mercedes <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com> > > August 8, 2016 at 4:07 PM > > Curt, maybe you and Andrew can form a club, maybe called the Rose > > Colored Glasses club. And I'm glad to know of your father's low > > intelligence and your own personal massive intellect. Next time I have > > a tough decision, I'll consult you and then do just the opposite :-)) > > I only hope your sick on election day and can't vote. Nothing serious, > > maybe just diarrhea or some such to keep you home. > > Best Wishes, > > Roger > > Roger Hale > > Dinnerware Classics, Inc. > > Monroe, Ga. > > 770-267-0850 > > www.dinnerwareclassics.com > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > http://www.okiebenz.com > > > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > > > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
