I like sticky all weather tires. I generally look for T rated A A or AB tires that have fairly soft compounds. They may not go 100K, but i won't end up in the ditch or worse either. When i got my 200D back in 72, i bought a set of dunlops to go with it. These tires had a mini dog-biscuit tread pattern, were sticky, but wore adequately (40K range). I've not seen anything else as good in all conditions since. I could plow snow with that car on those tires. Well, the blizzacks are good in winter, but they are not a year round tire. I am currently trying out contis. When i could get German Contis, that was all I'd buy. The jury is still out on these US (general) contis.

Michelins, in my experience rarely wear out, but slip belts and otherwise go to pot. They are overpriced. They are french. I don't want them. Finding good tires at a reasonable price in the US is a problem. The blizzacks and Nokis are overpriced too. Bad years are overpriced an usually slip belts, but when I bought the vw it was on expensive goodyears, and they did actually last until they wore out! I was impressed with them, but they were probably $400 back then (1987) I could buy Contis for $30 each at the time. I have NEVER had a German Conti come apart or slip a belt. I ran them on the ford van (6 Ply rated) the MB, the valiant, the escort, the Datsun and never had any trouble. I even had frenchy Kleber tires on the valiant when we sold it. (cause there were no Contis available in that size at the time) They seemed to do ok and had a grippy tread pattern and decent compound.

I had expensive Toyos on the Escort, cause Lex Brodie said they were good, and you don't have a lot of choices in Honolulu. I was not happy with them. They came apart after a year or two.

I have been running some Remingtons on my SDLs but they don't grip in snow and ice. I have been running blizzacks in the winter, but this winter is about the end for them as a set of 4. I think I can get one more winter out of 2 of them.

As with all tires, your mileage may vary, and it depends on the car and driver. I am a Dieseler. I rarely go over 80 and don't drive the SCCA circuit. But I drive 30-60K a year. Medium grade, all season tires are suited for this application

I won't buy hard high mileage tires. They will wreck your car and can kill you and other people.

My mantra:  Good, sticky tires are cheap insurance.   $0.02

Loren
Lotsa MBs now
A company Dog Caravan I drive sometimes.

At 10:26 PM 3/8/2006, you wrote:
Michelins are not exactly a good measure of traction ,especially in
water or worse. The things last forever, but their hard compounds are
generally pretty scary on slippery surfaces. This would be even worse if
they were dried out. Michelins are bad enough on cars,, on big trucks
those things used to scare me to death.

----------Robert

Zoltan Finks wrote:
> I'm not too encouraged by what happened a few minutes ago. I spun one wheel
> while trying to back up onto the concrete pad I park on. Not ice, not snow,
> just rain water. It is a slight incline. I couldn't tell you which tire was
> spinning. One may or may not have been on the concrete as opposed to the
> asphalt beside it. There is very good tread remaining on the Michelins, and
> they are the type with a channel down the center for rain. But, I do
> recognize that the tires are likely old and they sat in the AZ sun for who
> knows for how long. I know with certainty that had there been H2O in any
> other state present I would not have been able to park.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
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