Discussed this with my Indy. He says he SERIOUSLY doubts it's the head gasket, but rather a heater hose or heater switch that is leaking. Well, that would be great, but I don't think so. He will take a look at it next week. Will keep y'all posted. That's what I love about my '85 617 - that engine had all the bugs worked out AGES ago. My early 603...not the case. Oh well, learning...with expense. Chris
Zeitgeist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Yes, the revised headgasket is vastly superior. From what I've observed, keeping the old headgasket in place when it's leaking or not uniformly flat MAY actually damage the head itself (see deck hammering photo http://users.zhonka.net/zeitgeist/MB%20Repairs/OM603%20Head%20Repair/ ). Of course, if you're going to remove the head, you may as well replace it with a new #22 version anyway (~$1650) YMMV On 3/13/06, Christopher McCann wrote: > revised heds are vastly superior (#17 and #19)...but are you saying the new > gaskets are superior? Casey Olympia, WA Biodiesel: "I drive in a persistent vegetative state" '87 300TD intercooler (211k) '84 300D (211k) Gashuffer: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (187K) _______________________________________ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf" -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:15:03 2006 Received: from web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.69]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIrZN-0005oH-Fm for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:15:02 +0000 Received: (qmail 87788 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 18:14:56 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=UbtD4Xel4w492JV3aK9iJ3uisqo0mlgX13uYWfKF/vg+ZTkjN4WYJ5/7pUyFkmgtwpbJKCfpLr7AtzzN2HuDgwwD3EtKqYh8wBdWLdzBcT8qGEPWFwwLja8MTDGvXfNahpywmtBilNWVFPT3a4GvEzs3T/tIlQe+BAgBfe6OPs8= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [67.52.19.222] by web30006.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:14:56 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:14:56 -0800 (PST) From: Christopher McCann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] need a PDF...steaky never works for me! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:15:03 -0000 I think I need: 72-360 - Removing and installation of gas pressure spring on tail gate But I'm not sure if that is the correct procedure. My very mechanically inclined friend (Charlie - 240D and tons-o-MOPAR cars) and I are going to replace both struts on the rear hatch door. SO, could someone PLEASE e-mail me the official instructions on how to do this? Struts ordered. Charlie has all the tools - torx stuff, etc. Thank you VERY much! Chris Christopher McCann, Squier Park, Kansas City, Missouri -2005 Blue Point Siamese, "Rose" -1992 Volkswagen Golf, diesel, 185K km, "Nanook" -1987 300TD, 151K, "Rotkäppchen" -1985 300SD, 212K, "Wulf" -1972 Jacobsen 21" Turbo Vent -1971 Case 222 Hydrive, 12HP Kohler, 38" deck, Snowcaster, "One Banger" --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:19:19 2006 Received: from web30109.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.82]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIrdX-0006HV-B0 for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:19:19 +0000 Received: (qmail 43260 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 18:19:15 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=AifF0yYrJIzTrP2FUwZi9QOvUqeYAuDQES7k1f7TgqSTOS/uuCNG7jjctHJEB7fOr3H08r/3aP0s8clad6ugJyAgqxEihIHTowx1qsE63kirGFslnZdjE3gSrot29AKJkinwr/3Uut6QLXJfQdEEtGipW0g2YRPUM5EbGD+JfLs= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [71.138.62.101] by web30109.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:19:14 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:19:14 -0800 (PST) From: michael smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:19:19 -0000 Thanks for the details, am off to the Mercedes Dr. this morning to sort it out... John Berryman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mar 13, 2006, at 3:46 AM, michael smith wrote: > Any experiences with changing springs? For some reason, I have seen many springs lately that after installation give the cars way different ride heights. My friends mini-van is the most recent. The suspension used to bottom out, now it tops out. MB has a chart about a mile long that gives all kinds of spring data. It is mind boggling that there are so many variables. Spring rubbers also come in many flavors. I have installed a few sets of springs and rubbers in 123 and 126 MBs over the past year. I had to get the part# from old rubbers to get the right ones. The springs themselves were all fine. Once the correct rubbers were installed, the ride height was where it belongs. After seeing this for the first time I pulled the springs and rubbers then put in the order. I know its a PIA but ordering the right rubbers is a crap shoot if you can't come up with the right part#. > > If anybody needs I have a set of used front brake calipers for the > same car as well as 2 new right calipers, new rear brake pads, spare > starter, alternator, radiators for 450SEL and 280SE, tons of > interior parts and rims...300D and 300SD injector pumps and > turbochargers...and a steering gearbox from a 110,000 mile car. > > Michael in not so sunny San Diego I still need Bendix 116 front calipers and would buy the rear pads as well. If the used ones are not stuck they would be fine as I would rebuild them. Let me know how much you want for them shipped to 12814 zip code. If any good radiators will fit 79 300SD I'm interested in that too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am _______________________________________ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:20:42 2006 Received: from web30109.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.200.82]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIrer-0006bo-5L for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:20:42 +0000 Received: (qmail 44220 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 18:20:33 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=prv+4Ato5Kt8l4slGtJ+YJCcflljIzUkExTKBDUYjSCPalc/yApSS5z4dqWZJxQgwPkT0wxNqf0TaVdA8l663sSihe5kIeoNnxuVTLRUXOAZHl01zqUK5q2ZWO6orUwgM1ruTmxLERqjSqpGrxufpsGnKhTGoAz8p/qBfnzerU8= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [71.138.62.101] by web30109.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:33 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:20:33 -0800 (PST) From: michael smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: Re: [MBZ] Uh Oh! X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:20:42 -0000 If you want the brake pads I think $20 including mailing will be fine-as for the calipers let me check what manufacturer they are and I will get back to you. Mike > If anybody needs I have a set of used front brake calipers for the > same car as well as 2 new right calipers, new rear brake pads, spare > starter, alternator, radiators for 450SEL and 280SE, tons of > interior parts and rims...300D and 300SD injector pumps and > turbochargers...and a steering gearbox from a 110,000 mile car. > > Michael in not so sunny San Diego I still need Bendix 116 front calipers and would buy the rear pads as well. If the used ones are not stuck they would be fine as I would rebuild them. Let me know how much you want for them shipped to 12814 zip code. If any good radiators will fit 79 300SD I'm interested in that too. Johnny B. I Mac Therefore I am _______________________________________ http://www.striplin.net For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Bring photos to life! New PhotoMail makes sharing a breeze. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:24:28 2006 Received: from web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.40]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIriW-0006zu-5V for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:24:28 +0000 Received: (qmail 13790 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 18:24:23 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=V7Cr9ejIPNVaQLDyiRVWhWDOit2IQZkv368TLLkn8N5SdfoNbYEyhJ1smiOAUD5+DM3kV1+0dG391ETKHUQExLHa6IstKTMbNX8nfZBg3FIqrVOpm8tOdTQ/9q/c/vdz8ug5ClEvKt7QDPaXeh6OM1KYQ8V2ZcibMTJTUJik+wg= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [24.63.168.75] by web32810.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:24:23 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:24:23 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] Forgot to mention X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:24:28 -0000 Yesterday I picked up a tube of "Jim Cathy's all purpose Mercedes repair adhesive" also known as ShoeGoo. Good stuff but smelly. I used it to glue the hooks back onto the door skin for my 190D. I'd recovered 3 out of 4 hooks. Once installed I found that apparently I didn't do a good enough job on one of them. Oh well its gotta come back apart when the replacement check straps come in anyway... -Curt '85 190D "Dory" 235kmi --------------------------------- Yahoo! Mail Use Photomail to share photos without annoying attachments. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:26:50 2006 Received: from web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.44]) by server5.arterytc5.net with smtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIrko-00078B-0T for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:26:50 +0000 Received: (qmail 49346 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Mar 2006 18:26:45 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Message-ID:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding; b=6S3n/koKCbimASnuK4LWcOjw9yVYts56ti50XwcONrjdRkEfw/RApd058gksGaDP/0kExxhtuf77aq9h3hMs0POSfkIy8tRr9mGLFnBVdENFCPvg4Wibm5DvBR3avQEtCPmowTS29N4dJc11nK/nL7ju/bn5PGyJ2GOWgL0PxIs= ; Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from [24.63.168.75] by web32814.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:26:45 PST Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:26:45 -0800 (PST) From: Curt Raymond <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Diesel List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.6 Subject: [MBZ] While I'm writing X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:26:50 -0000 How hard is it to r&r the blower fan on an '85 190D? My Chiltons manual (garbage) seems to indicate you do it from under the hood. I've got the HVAC section from the MB manual around here somewhere.... Mine is squeeling, I figure maybe I can get some ATF onto the bearings and get more life out of it. Yet if its a bear to do I'll just replace it. -Curt '85 190D "Dory" 235kmi --------------------------------- Brings words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with Yahoo! Mail. From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Mar 13 18:32:27 2006 Received: from rwcrmhc11.comcast.net ([204.127.192.81]) by server5.arterytc5.net with esmtp (Exim 4.52) id 1FIrqE-0007o1-Tu for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:26 +0000 Received: from ringbill.gull.us (gull.us[24.18.9.231]) by comcast.net (rwcrmhc11) with ESMTP id <20060313183221m11001odf5e>; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:22 +0000 Received: from grackle ([192.168.1.5]) by ringbill.gull.us with esmtpsa (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.51 (FreeBSD)) id 1FIrq8-000Jz9-MM for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:20 -0800 Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 10:32:17 -0800 From: David Brodbeck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.6 (X11/20050715) X-Accept-Language: en-us, en MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> References: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> In-Reply-To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Antivirus-Scanner: Clean mail though you should still use an Antivirus Subject: Re: [MBZ] More Storms X-BeenThere: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6 Precedence: list Reply-To: Mercedes Discussion List <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Id: Mercedes Discussion List <mercedes_striplin.net.striplin.net> List-Unsubscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Archive: <http://striplin.net/pipermail/mercedes_striplin.net> List-Post: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Help: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> List-Subscribe: <http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net>, <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2006 18:32:27 -0000 Bob Rentfro wrote: > I really don't miss storms like that. > I do. I always found them exciting. I liked to stand out on my balcony and watch a big one approach...what an amazing sense of raw power and massive forces at work. David Brodbeck '83 300D Turbo