Heading out for dinner with the wife and some friends. I’ll pm you the details when I get home.
-D > On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:56 PM, Buggered Benzmail via Mercedes > <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: > > If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you could please. Seems like > almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need another car but... > > I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so > I’m a bit more “bona fide” > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> So here’s the deal: >> >> I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E >> enthusiasts) and this is what they have said: >> >>> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / >>> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was >>> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower >>> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild >>> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. >>> >>> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next >>> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or >>> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted >>> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS >>> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and >>> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors. >>> >>> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all >>> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items >>> you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used >>> M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by >>> far would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.” >>> >>> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer >>> replacement they put on the car a few years back. That leaves little but >>> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue. >>> >> >> They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension >> rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts. Brakes were done >> as well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 >> - I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts. All >> work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area. >> >> It’s a great foundation If you have the guys info fwd it onto me if you >> could please. Seems like almost too good a deal to pass up, not that I need >> another car but... > > I presume you have communicated with him, I’ll reference your reference so > I’m a bit more “bona fide” > > --R > Sent from iPhone > >> On Jan 31, 2018, at 3:21 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> >> wrote: >> >> So here’s the deal: >> >> I have conferred with the learned folks on the Davelist (400E/500E >> enthusiasts) and this is what they have said: >> >>> “Your thoughts are spot-on. The lower engine harness (to starter / >>> alternator) cannot, to my knowledge, cause limp mode. I think the indie was >>> either lazy or is not familiar with diagnosing M119's with ASR. The lower >>> harness is NLA currently, but can be rebuilt as DIY, or Jono will rebuild >>> them professionally. The upper wire harness should not cause limp mode. >>> >>> If we assume the ETA is good (no guarantee the "rebuilt" is ok), the next >>> most likely items to cause limp mode are: brake light switch faulty or >>> mis-adjusted, NSS on trans faulty (very common if original), mis-adjusted >>> throttle linkage, faulty microswitch at the accelerator pedal, faulty E-GAS >>> module, or faulty ETA. The wheel speed sensors are very rare failures, and >>> I've never heard of failed diff speed sensors. >>> >>> If the car is in good condition and under $1k, limp mode would NOT at all >>> be a deal-breaker. However, I would budget ±$1k in parts for various items >>> you are probably going to run into along the way, same as with any used >>> M119 purchase. For the limp mode specifically, the most expensive item by >>> far would be the ETA if needed. Everything else is <$100.” >>> >>> The ETA has been checked out and confirmed good, as it was a dealer >>> replacement they put on the car a few years back. That leaves little but >>> microswitches or adjustments to sort out the issue. >>> >> >> They have recently (within the last year or two) done a full suspension >> rebuild with shocks, struts and bushings using MB parts. Brakes were done >> as well. Full service records for their ownership, which began prior to 2010 >> - I’m not sure of the exact year, something like 08/09 or thereabouts. All >> work was done by the local dealer or a now retired MB indie in the area. >> >> It’s a great foundation for someone who wants a cheap entry into the 400E >> platform, as they’ve done all the requisite W124/M119 stuff that would be >> necessary in a car of this age and vintage. This even includes timing chain >> and guides, which I’ve never done on an M119 before 300k. >> >> The piddly stuff are things you could easily ignore or put off, like the >> rear window regulator and antenna, for example. Left rear fender has >> peeling clearcoat, but it’s that panel and that panel on,y, something that >> could easily be masked off and dealt with to make the exterior 100%. >> >> You should reach out to the guy if you’re interested. I will gladly rebuild >> the lower harness gratis if you get it to/from my abode. It’s not a big >> deal to R&R. >> >> -D >> >> >> >>> On Jan 31, 2018, at 2:46 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> Man that is really tempting. I'm wondering if a Kleb price would do it, or >>> if he would not want to go lower than like $750 (which is still a good >>> price I would think, the car looks pretty nice though I'm not really into >>> white). >>> >>> So you think the ASR is the culprit? Is that something straightforward? >>> Would it be something that could be done easily to get it running or would >>> it need some bench work? Knacker parts from any old 124? or is it more >>> than that? >>> >>> The wiring harness I could easily deal with I suppose, sounds more like a >>> bit of a pain than anything else. Is that also putting it into limp mode? >>> What would YOU do to get it running right? >>> >>> I bought a regulator for the 210 for like $40, that is no big deal, or just >>> grab one at the knackers. >>> >>> damn you you are talking me into this. >>> >>> Max, feel like an upstate road trip? >>> >>> --FT >>> >>> >>>> On 1/31/18 2:18 PM, Dan--- via Mercedes wrote: >>>> Here’s the CL ad: >>>> >>>> https://greenville.craigslist.org/cto/d/400e-mercedes-benz-w124-m119/6456318662.html >>>> >>>> I posted a link to current photos yesterday: >>>> >>>> http://penoff.com/Penoff.com/PhotoDump.html >>>> >>>> He had listed this on Benzworld a while back starting at $2k or >>>> thereabouts with no takers. It’s had all the requisite 1993 vintage/M119 >>>> stuff done to it, but needs a lower engine harness rebuild (easy for >>>> someone with basic soldering and mechanical skills) and the ASR sorted out >>>> - also a fairly easy fix once some troubleshooting can be done. Heck! if >>>> someone bought this and shipped me the harness, I would rebuilt it for the >>>> cost of shipping. It’s easy if you’ve got the stuff. >>>> >>>> I’m out at this point. As stated by the time I have the purchase price and >>>> shipping ($450) into it I’ll be upside down trying to get everything >>>> sorted, as it has a bunch of minor things like rear window regulator and >>>> wonky antenna, to name a few, that need to be addressed. My Martha >>>> tendencies would require that I address it all, which would not make good >>>> fiscal sense in the long term. >>>> >>>> This is a bad*ss car with a 4 liter M119 in it, and besides being >>>> surprisingly frugal on fuel for a V8, it will blow the doors off of about >>>> anything else on the street today. >>>> >>>> I would bet if you walked up with $750/$800 right now he would take it. >>>> For that and not hav >> _______________________________________ >> http://www.okiebenz.com >> >> To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ >> >> To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: >> http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com >> > > _______________________________________ > http://www.okiebenz.com > > To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com > _______________________________________ http://www.okiebenz.com To search list archives http://www.okiebenz.com/archive/ To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: http://mail.okiebenz.com/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_okiebenz.com
