So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping it clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?
Sent from my iPhone > On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> > wrote: > > Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE > for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1. > I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 > for Mann or Hengst. > > So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00. > > If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis on > literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP for > many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year. > That’s what, $40-$50? > > So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single > oil change based on 10k/miles/year. If I change twice a year based on time > or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50. > > So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year. As I stated previously, if > Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route. However, since > they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more > frequent changes using Dino oil. > > To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it. > > -D > > > >> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a >> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter... >> >> Curt >> >> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >> >> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes >> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap. I can do a complete >> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and >> not have concerns. If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost. Since >> Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than conventional >> dino juice in my opinion. >> >> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even >> more. >> >> -D >> >> >>> On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes >>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>> >>> So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic >>> over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like >>> 617 and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with >>> synthetic? Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could >>> those go 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t >>> go more than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of >>> those that’s group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the >>> interval it’s with it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I >>> am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino >>> it’s whole life. >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes >>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had >>>> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I >>>> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil... >>>> >>>> Curt >>>> >>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android >>>> >>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via >>>> Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote: >>>> You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel. Delvac or Delo >>>> 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive. >>>> >>>> -D >>>> >>>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes >>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel. I'm >>>>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine? Don't want to go M1 and pay for >>>>> that. >>>>> >>>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is >>>>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if >>>>> that helps. The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but >>>>> if they last a while it's all good. >>>>> >>>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected >>>>> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not >>>>> working right now. I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum >>>>> in the hoses, I guess those are OK. 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