So what about the supposed benefit of cleaning out the engine and keeping it 
clean, and supposedly quieting down lifters?

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> On May 17, 2018, at 7:35 AM, Dan--- via Mercedes <mercedes@okiebenz.com> 
> wrote:
> 
> Mobil1 averages about $26/5 quarts. I can buy 2-1/2 gallons of Delo 400 LE 
> for $26.00, which makes it about $2.60/quart, or half the price of Mobil1.  
> I’m not sure where you’re buying filters for $8.00, I’m paying around $10.00 
> for Mann or Hengst.
> 
> So a five quart oil change is actually under $25.00.
> 
> If you’re doing oil analysis properly, and as someone who did oil analysis on 
> literally thousands of diesel industrial engines from maybe 50 to 2500 HP for 
> many years, you’re sampling on a regular basis, let’s say twice a year.  
> That’s what, $40-$50?
> 
> So if you sample and use M1, you’re spending roughly $75/year with a single 
> oil change based on 10k/miles/year.  If I change twice a year based on time 
> or interval (5k intervals) with no sampling, I’m spending $50.
> 
> So I’m running fresher oil for $25 less a year.  As I stated previously, if 
> Mobil1 wasn’t a group 3 base stock I would go that route.  However, since 
> they downgraded the product I don’t see a lot of value in using it over more 
> frequent changes using Dino oil.
> 
> To each his/her own, of course. That’s just my take on it.
> 
> -D
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 17, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Curt Raymond <curtlud...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Can I see the breakdown of costs please? I don't believe I pay $70 for a 
>> change with M1. $30/gallon on sale, $8 for a filter...
>> 
>> Curt
>> 
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>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 6:00 PM, Dan Penoff via Mercedes
>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>> Good quality diesel oil like Delo 400 LE is cheap.  I can do a complete 
>> change with Delo 400 LE on the 95 E300D for under $35 every 5000 miles and 
>> not have concerns.  If I used Mobil1 it would be near twice the cost.  Since 
>> Mobil1 is a group 3 base stock it’s not that much better than conventional 
>> dino juice in my opinion.
>> 
>> Oh yeah, if I drop another $20 on oil analysis I’ve driven my costs up even 
>> more.
>> 
>> -D
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 16, 2018, at 8:50 PM, Kaleb C. Striplin via Mercedes 
>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> So here we go again. My line of thinking has been that if you go synthetic 
>>> over Dino, can you double the internal? For example earlier engines like 
>>> 617 and 603 have a factory 5k interval. Could you go 10k on those with 
>>> synthetic? Later engines such as 606 have a 7500 mile interval, so could 
>>> those go 14-15k? I am thinking so but others have said that is crazy don’t 
>>> go more than 5k on M1 since it’s a group 3. If you go amsoil or one of 
>>> those that’s group 4 you can probably go 10-15k on. If I can double the 
>>> interval it’s with it to me. I don’t really need the cold start benefit. I 
>>> am not sure if it’s a benefit on a 2-300k mile engine that has ran on Dino 
>>> it’s whole life. 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On May 16, 2018, at 7:05 PM, Curt Raymond via Mercedes 
>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> You're not wasting it on a 60x engine. Oil analysis of the two 601s I had 
>>>> suggested they could handily go 10,000miles on Mobil 1 between changes.I 
>>>> mean I guess if you really like changing the oil...
>>>> 
>>>> Curt
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> On Wed, May 16, 2018 at 2:52 PM, Dan Penoff via 
>>>> Mercedes<mercedes@okiebenz.com <mailto:mercedes@okiebenz.com>> wrote:  
>>>> You’re wasting your money putting Mobil1 in the diesel.  Delvac or Delo 
>>>> 400 at Dead Sam’s will be more than adequate and far less expensive.
>>>> 
>>>> -D
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 16, 2018, at 5:48 PM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes 
>>>>> <mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I got a filter yesterday and going to change the oel in this dizzel.  I'm 
>>>>> guessing cheepcheep Delvac will be fine?  Don't want to go M1 and pay for 
>>>>> that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I also got the Kumhos mounted on it, have not taken it out yet as it is 
>>>>> running badly now, again, going out to change the fuel filter and see if 
>>>>> that helps.  The tires look pretty good, no telling how they will be but 
>>>>> if they last a while it's all good.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I heard the vac valve or whatever it is on the fender that is connected 
>>>>> to the EGR making some kind of gurgling noise so wonder if the EGR is not 
>>>>> working right now.  I pulled the hose and it hissed so there was vacuum 
>>>>> in the hoses, I guess those are OK.  I think I'll just do the rewiring 
>>>>> bypass on the EGR and be done with it but need to get organized to do 
>>>>> that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> --FT
>>>>> 
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