I'm not going to cast aspersions but that has NOT been my experience
visiting the Boston area on numerous occasions over the past 5 years.

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 11:25 AM, Floyd Thursby via Mercedes <
mercedes@okiebenz.com> wrote:

> Interestingly enough, I found the most racist/ethnicist place I have ever
> lived to be liberal Massachusetts.  The "race" aspect was sorta secondary
> to the ethnic aspect, kinda as in you don't look like me, you aren't like
> me, your family did not come from the same place as mine, you're a
> different religion, etc.  I found that almost everyone disliked<->hated
> (somewhere on that spectrum) everyone else, at least those who were more
> than one generation in the area.  Being very stereotypical here, but I
> found that whites disliked<->hated blacks, and anyone else of a darker
> shade in general, (white) Irish and Italians hated one another, Catholics,
> Jews, Protestants, Muslims, whatever. I had a Haitian neighbor who was
> really black, who viscerally hated the "American" blacks who lived up the
> street from us and would go off on them sounding like an old klucker, it
> was pretty bad but was also somewhat curious and mystifying but I realized
> it came down to cultural values not color so much.
>
> It seemed to come down whoever had arrived more recently than the other
> group, and the ones later on were like monkeys in a tree, with the ones
> above "trickling" down on the ones below, so that created this sorta
> cultural/ethnic/racial animosity.   Asians, specifically Vietnamese and
> Cambodians, were the latest groups to arrive, so everyone else looked down
> on them.  It was really strange.  As an outsider I was never fully
> "integrated" but did eventually make some more-or-less "local" friends but
> it took a coupla decades.
>
> Living here at ground zero for slavery, I find that of course there is
> still fairly strong racism ( the area is not particularly
> racially/ethnically diverse, though hispanics are becoming a larger part of
> the community) but at least where I live folks mostly get along while both
> sides maintain some self-segregation due to historical issues (slavery, Jim
> Crow, KKK, etc.) that are still very present in family experiences as this
> stuff was quite present up until fairly recently.  The disliked<->hated
> aspect is not nearly as up front as it was in "liberal" Massachusetts which
> I find kinda strange.
>
> All that said, it seems to be human nature that we divide ourselves into
> cohorts based on race, ethnicity, culture, beliefs, interests, or whatever,
> and that becomes a basis for a "community" of thought or attitude, in some
> cases established generations ago, and it gets reinforced and accepted as
> "normal."  I just read a book called Hillbilly Elegy that lays out very
> clearly how the Eastern Kentucky culture continued through a diaspora in
> the 50s (or earlier) to what is now the Rust Belt, and is still quite
> apparent today.  So there are these subsets of cultural behaviors even
> among the white population that I find quite off-putting and they don't
> really involve any racial aspects.
>
> Musings...
>
> --R
>
>
> On 6/7/18 9:48 AM, Donald Snook via Mercedes wrote:
>
>> Mountain Man wrote:
>>
>> "That is what I want - nice country area, no racism, but "boys" that are
>> people to be with, that are people to teach how life is.  Life is more than
>> what the city stifles us to be.  Does anyone know if this is possible? - or
>> is this a mere city slicker dream?"
>>
>> I'm not exactly sure what you are asking.  Are you seeking an out of the
>> way rural country life?   If so, you can go to a lot of places other than
>> Mississippi.  But, the state certainly offers plenty of places where you
>> won't see much other than farms.
>>
>> Mississippi has a population around 3 Million.  It is a fairly large
>> state in terms of geographical size.  The urban (or semi urban) areas are
>> located on the coast, around Jackson, and to a lesser extent: Hattiesburg
>> and the college towns of Oxford and Starkville.   Oxford is a Beautiful
>> town.  It is home to "Ole Miss."   Because it is a college town, it is
>> probably one of the more liberal areas in the whole state.  Of course,
>> "liberal" in Mississippi is much different than Liberal in Illinois or
>> Massachusetts.
>>
>> The least populated county in the state is Issaquena County.  It is far
>> west and central.  It is notable because it had the highest concentration
>> of slaves (before the Civil War) of any County in the Country. 40+% of the
>> county is in poverty and the county has the highest unemployment in the
>> state.
>>
>> Hinds and Jackson Counties are the most populous.
>>
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