Let me rephrase that. I know Bosch starters can be had (like from Rusty,
right?), the thing that threw me is that I got a Bosch solenoid from
AutoJoke.

Brian
83 240D


On 3/30/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>  On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts
> is frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime
> warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name
> Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some
> such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit.
>
> I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found
> at the pick & pull.
>
> Brian
> 83 240D
>
>  On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >  Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine
> > from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side
> > firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds
> > like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself.
> >
> > I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds
> > like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter
> > motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm
> > understanding correctly.
> >
> > And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the
> > starter motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have
> > remembered to have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all
> > this out, but I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of
> > doing my work.
> >
> > Brian
> > 83 240D
> >
> >
> >  On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > >
> > > The solenoid is a switch.  The top stud has a cable connected to the
> > > battery.  The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring
> > > inside
> > > the starter.  That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the
> > > starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter
> > > to
> > > run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis)  The small terminal in the
> > >
> > > middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit.  The other side
> > > of
> > > the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the
> > > engine, to the body and the negative terminal.
> > >
> > > If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can
> > > jump
> > > from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and
> > > solenoid
> > > work  correctly, the starter should engage.  (another reason why your
> > > ol
> > > dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.)
> > >
> > > If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is
> > > probably
> > > arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to
> > > start,
> > > and will likely cause overheating at the terminal.
> > >
> > > At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote:
> > > >Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's
> > > that
> > > >second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going
> > > to it.
> > > >
> > > >Brian
> > > >83 240D
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > BINGO!  that'd do it!   If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and
> > > only the
> > > > > nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens.  It might be a
> > > cheap
> > > > > fix.  If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a
> > > new
> > > > > solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap.  I've been known to
> > > buy a used
> > > > > starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid.  The brand X solenoids
> > > I have
> > > > > tried never last long.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote:
> > > > > >When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that
> > > the
> > > > > solenoid
> > > > > >(or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where
> > > there
> > > > > is
> > > > > >that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between
> > > your
> > > > > >fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could
> > > tightening it
> > > > > back
> > > > > >up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting
> > > problem,
> > > > > thus
> > > > > >allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I
> > > drove the
> > > > > 240
> > > > > >to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did
> > > before
> > > > > which
> > > > > >was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable
> > > "clack" just
> > > > > >before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change
> > > the
> > > > > >starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is
> > > 10mm.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >Brian
> > > > > >83 240D
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