Let me rephrase that. I know Bosch starters can be had (like from Rusty, right?), the thing that threw me is that I got a Bosch solenoid from AutoJoke.
Brian 83 240D On 3/30/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On the topic of reman. starters: I know that getting one from a McParts > is frowned upon, but I must admit I got one from AutoJoke with a lifetime > warranty. The thing that I noticed tonight is that the solenoid has the name > Bosch stamped on it, and the main starter body has made in Germany, or some > such on it. So it appears to be a rebuilt original equipment unit. > > I thought that the much sought after Bosch solenoids could only be found > at the pick & pull. > > Brian > 83 240D > > On 3/28/06, Zoltan Finks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Thanks! Good info! I know that on my '68 Dodge, I can start the engine > > from the firewall by arcing two terminals on a box on the driver side > > firewall. This must be the same as what you're describing, only it sounds > > like on the Mercedes, I'd have to do it at the starter itself. > > > > I'd also have to make sure I get the correct two terminals, as it sounds > > like you've described a third. If I get the wrong two terminals, the starter > > motor will spin, but the gear will not engage the flywheel, if I'm > > understanding correctly. > > > > And if I get the correct two terminals, using the screwdriver, the > > starter motor will spin and the gear will engage, and I'd better have > > remembered to have 'er in neutral. I can get under the hood and check all > > this out, but I'm just trying to visualize as I sit here on email instead of > > doing my work. > > > > Brian > > 83 240D > > > > > > On 3/27/06, Loren Faeth <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > The solenoid is a switch. The top stud has a cable connected to the > > > battery. The bottom terminal has a strap that goes to the wiring > > > inside > > > the starter. That is why, when your solenoid fails, you can jump the > > > starter, with a big screwdriver, or equivalent, and cause the starter > > > to > > > run. (but not engage) (Useful in diagnosis) The small terminal in the > > > > > > middle is one side of the switching (control) circuit. The other side > > > of > > > the switching circuit is the ground through the starter itself, to the > > > engine, to the body and the negative terminal. > > > > > > If you suspect a problem with the starter control circuit, you can > > > jump > > > from the top terminal to the small terminal and if the starter and > > > solenoid > > > work correctly, the starter should engage. (another reason why your > > > ol > > > dissel can get you home when others are F.O.R.D.) > > > > > > If the nut on the bottom is loose, the current to the starter is > > > probably > > > arcing, and may not make contact, or may not conduct enough juice to > > > start, > > > and will likely cause overheating at the terminal. > > > > > > At 12:06 PM 3/27/2006, you wrote: > > > >Thanks Loren. I'll certainly try to tighten it up. By the way, what's > > > that > > > >second terminal, (stud) for anyway? Mine doesn't have any wire going > > > to it. > > > > > > > >Brian > > > >83 240D > > > > > > > > > > > >On 3/26/06, Loren Faeth < [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > BINGO! that'd do it! If the stud on the solenoid is tight, and > > > only the > > > > > nut is loose, tighten it and see what happens. It might be a > > > cheap > > > > > fix. If the stud is loose in the solenoid, you need at least a > > > new > > > > > solenoid, and the Bosch ones are not cheap. I've been known to > > > buy a used > > > > > starter just to get a used Bosch solenoid. The brand X solenoids > > > I have > > > > > tried never last long. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 11:41 PM 3/26/2006, you wrote: > > > > > >When I went to change out my starter yesterday, I noticed that > > > the > > > > > solenoid > > > > > >(or at least the assembly onto which the wires connect, and where > > > there > > > > > is > > > > > >that second terminal, or nut) is loose. It rattles around between > > > your > > > > > >fingers. Obviously this is a problem. Question is: Could > > > tightening it > > > > > back > > > > > >up (if that's even possible) solve the intermittent starting > > > problem, > > > > > thus > > > > > >allowing me to return the starter I bought? This weekend as I > > > drove the > > > > > 240 > > > > > >to a wedding, etc. it always started - did not do what it did > > > before > > > > > which > > > > > >was absolutely nothing. But I heard a minor but noticeable > > > "clack" just > > > > > >before the starter jumped to life. Incidentally, I did not change > > > the > > > > > >starter out - mainly because the largest Allen key I have is > > > 10mm. > > > > > > > > > > > >Brian > > > > > >83 240D > > > > > >_______________________________________ > > > > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > > > >For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: > > > http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________ > > > >http://www.striplin.net > > > >For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > >For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > >To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > >http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________ > > > http://www.striplin.net > > > For new parts see official list sponsor: http://www.buymbparts.com/ > > > For used parts email [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > To Unsubscribe or change delivery options go to: > > > http://striplin.net/mailman/listinfo/mercedes_striplin.net > > > > > > > >